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I agree you didn't write

Flavius — Fri, 14 Sep 2012 14:21:22 +0000

I agree you didn't write anything disrespectful about Stevens.

I know enough. It's easy to

PeraclesPlease — Fri, 14 Sep 2012 14:07:02 +0000

I know enough. It's easy to draw a crowd of Muslims to a US embassy to express outrage. It's happened time and again worldwide.

Are they manipulated? Sure. Are you manipulated? Sure. Doesn't change my analysis.

You've written: It was a

tmccarthy0 — Fri, 14 Sep 2012 12:52:06 +0000

In reply to It was a fairly spontaneous

You've written:

It was a fairly spontaneous protest at the consulate, much like other protests at embassies around the region.

You don't know that, you have no way of knowing this, you continue to insist you have all the facts. You don't.

It's peculiar, because I

PeraclesPlease — Fri, 14 Sep 2012 09:30:53 +0000

In reply to Probably yours is the last

It's peculiar, because I don't think I said anything negative about the deceased - quite the opposite. And often as part of mourning we try to make sense of the death, either to understand and place our feelings for those who've died, or draw lessons so they won't have died in vain.

Ambassador Stevens spent years trying to do something positive with Libya and lost his life doing so - in some ways he succeeded, but it's fragile. Isn't that worth discussing?

Probably yours is the last

Flavius — Fri, 14 Sep 2012 09:21:29 +0000

In reply to Speaking of conservative way

Probably yours is the last comment so as the originator of this post I'll come in again and write something.

A mark of being civilized is to respect death . And to do that by temporarily acting differently from normal. Not taking advantage of the grieving widow; temporarily suspending judgement on the deceased : nil nisi bonum.

For how long? Dunno. For a while . Justice Powell said he couldn't define pornography but he knew it when he saw it. Same with death. The funeral's meats shouldn't coldly furnish forth the wedding breakfast.

Why? Because it's what's been done for a long time.

Here in the US people

rmrd0000 — Thu, 13 Sep 2012 20:03:44 +0000

In reply to People are always duped. What

Here in the US people protested "The Last Temptation of Christ" even if it wasn't playing in their city. People in the US held events for Russia's "Pussy Riot". The trigger for protest does not have to be local.

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Michael Maiello — Thu, 13 Sep 2012 19:36:49 +0000

In reply to People are always duped. What

People are always duped. What

PeraclesPlease — Thu, 13 Sep 2012 19:34:52 +0000

In reply to How the protest started may

People are always duped. What do you call going out to protest an anonymous low-budget insulting movie no one's seen made in a far away land? Sanity?

The Libyans are suggesting

rmrd0000 — Thu, 13 Sep 2012 19:09:09 +0000

In reply to How the protest started may

The Libyans are suggesting this was a well planned two-prong atttack.

How the protest started may

rmrd0000 — Thu, 13 Sep 2012 17:29:34 +0000

In reply to It was a fairly spontaneous

How the protest started may change impressions a lot. If people went out to do a loud, but just vocal protest, that is free speech. If people using free speech were hijacked by an organized group who turned out to be armed, things change markedly. The people who may have been used were duped.

We need more facts.