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US court jails radical imam

artappraiser — Sat, 10 Jan 2015 11:18:59 +0000

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US court jails radical imam Abu Hamza for life for terrorism

Euro News, Jan. 10, 2015

The radical imam Abu Hamza has been sentenced to life in prison by a court in New York on terrorism charges.

He had been convicted last May of helping Yemeni militants kidnap Western tourists in 1998, leading to the deaths of three British hostages and one Australian. Jurors found him guilty of providing a satellite phone and advice.

He also helped set up a terror training camp in the States, sending two followers to Oregon – and was found to have dispatched an associate to Afghanistan to aid al Qaeda and the Taliban against the US.

US District Judge Katherine Forrest in Manhattan called his actions “barbaric”. [....]

Why no howls from the

jollyroger — Sun, 07 Oct 2012 22:14:56 +0000

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Why no howls from the politicianiarirat condemning civil, not gitmo trials? No doubt we are constrained by due process meddling in the extradition proceeding.

Thought you said, "all you

PeraclesPlease — Sun, 07 Oct 2012 18:05:17 +0000

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Thought you said, "all you really need do is hook em in the eye" - think I need my glasses checked.

Some guys, you know... all

Qnonymous — Sun, 07 Oct 2012 04:04:16 +0000

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Some guys, you know... all you really need do is look em in the eye... and you know, deep down... you can trust em.

Also, the hook. When combined with the screaming and frothing, I find it darned convincing.

Sounds too pat now as then -

PeraclesPlease — Sat, 06 Oct 2012 17:49:20 +0000

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Sounds too pat now as then - just Muslims being Muslims? Persians & Saudis don't mix well; Hezbollah had a dainty role in the mix, and I think post-colonial French Lebanon is a bit different from the post-colonial British territories (including the fact of the Lebanese civil war and the 1982 Israeli invasion that would make them caireful about their assumptions. Al Qaeda would be a usurper of the crafted Hezbollah role, one they'd turned into as dangerous as a Civil Servant's job)

It is interesting to glance

artappraiser — Sat, 06 Oct 2012 17:43:36 +0000

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It is interesting to glance at that indictment again (I ended up reading many of the trial transcripts after 9/11) in that Hezbollah is mentioned on the front page I link to. This grand jury trial is where some of the confusion about Iranians (are they fer or agin al Qaeda?) begins, because there was considerable testimony about Osama bin Laden reaching out to Hezbollah and similar Shi'ite groups while he was in Sudan, when he was trying to form al Qaeda. That testimony was quite believable and I still don't doubt that Osama tried to do that. He was, after all, dreaming of the glory of getting the entire ummah to rise up. And there was no reason for Hezbollah types to refuse a meet and greet with a rich eccentric anti-American Saudi or his agents. Turned out that Sunni Mullah Omar was the one most enticed by the sales pitch.....

Something I did not remember:

artappraiser — Sat, 06 Oct 2012 17:03:05 +0000

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Something I did not remember: these guys were indicted in the 1998 indictment, USA v. Usama bin Laden et al.; from the AP article:

Al-Masri, a one-time nightclub bouncer, will be housed in Manhattan along with Khaled al-Fawwaz, 50, a citizen of Saudi Arabia, and Adel Abdul Bary, 52, an Egyptian citizen, who will face trial on charges that they participated in the bombings of two U.S. embassies in Africa in 1998. The attacks killed 224 people, including 12 Americans. They were indicted in a case that also charged Osama bin Laden.

I suspect the Republican base

Elusive Trope — Sat, 06 Oct 2012 16:35:03 +0000

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I suspect the Republican base will claim some conspiracy between the White House and Britain to give Obama a chance to look strong against terrorists while at the same time punishing Romney for his remarks about their Summer Olympics.

For those who don't remember

artappraiser — Sat, 06 Oct 2012 16:27:49 +0000

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For those who don't remember Abu Hamza by name, here's the media's favorite "mug shot":

from AP's coverage of the extradition by John Christofferson and Larry Neumeister, October 6. That photo is owned by the AP.