dagblog - Comments for "Mourdock's Crime is Theism"

No prob, we got your desk

PeraclesPlease — Sat, 27 Oct 2012 06:36:32 +0000

In reply to Apologies. Was trying to fake

No prob, we got your ~~desk~~ dungeon saved for you anytime you want it back. You were always our most enthusiastic worker, made it worth the extra liability coverage.

Apologies. Was trying to fake

quinn esq — Sat, 27 Oct 2012 01:15:44 +0000

In reply to "Jackshit crazy hepped up on

Apologies. Was trying to fake a "voice of reason."

Can't seem to suss it.

What most people don't

ocean-kat — Sat, 27 Oct 2012 00:33:15 +0000

In reply to I sort of apply the common

What most people don't realize is that conditions change at least 30% of the time. 30% of confirmed pregnancies after implantation end in miscarriage. Now most anti abortion zealots define "life" as the moment sperm meets egg, conception, not after implantation as you seem to. Factoring in the number of fertilized eggs that do not successfully implant, 75% of pregnancies end in miscarriage.

Seems to me "god" aborts far more little "baby" fetuses than women. "God" makes them and wastes them like they are trash. Many doctors recommend waiting until after a women misses a menstrual cycle to test because so many of these darling little "babies" get flushed down the toilet by "god."

A zygote is not a baby. A personhood amendment to the constitution is the stupidest idea I've ever heard.

The only purpose in looking at Murdock's and other abortion foes views is to come to the realization that there is no middle ground compromise or win/win solution with these crackpot zealots. One side will win and the other will lose, there's no other solution.

I sort of apply the common

jollyroger — Sat, 27 Oct 2012 00:09:53 +0000

In reply to I think this is an

I sort of apply the common law rule regarding an "attempted"crime, viz., the accused has done all sufficient acts that barring some additional change of condition the crime will result. Put in reverse, an implanted embryo represents a situation in which all obtains that is necessary to produce a person, barring some change of condition.

"Jackshit crazy hepped up on

PeraclesPlease — Fri, 26 Oct 2012 22:01:00 +0000

In reply to Dude. Good to hear ya. A

"Jackshit crazy hepped up on drugs and in no fucking way supported by reason.

You gotta problem with that? Gettign old, buddy, getting old...

I think they're confusing it

PeraclesPlease — Fri, 26 Oct 2012 21:59:33 +0000

In reply to Fair enough, see my reply to

I think they're confusing it with pederasty, where young boys can be screwed from here to Sunday at Bible camp, Boy Scout camp, Penn State football camp, and they never get pregnant, God be praised.

It's strange that these folks have such an "Inch'allah" mindset yet they abhor Islam. And I'm willing to bet they have no sympathy about prison rapes, and as many have shown, equate extramarital sex with rape and debauchery. Or just Rush's slut-shaming re: the use of contraception (which was actually about hormone treatment, but nevuh-mind)

I'm typically supportive of religous folks having their beliefs in public and can sympathize with counter-positions on abortion, but sometimes when little minds try to unite primitive religious thought with issues of health, morality and acts of inhumanity, the mind simply boggles. Of course if we're daily confronted with morality tales of asses that talk back, wrestling with angels so you can kill the first son, and stoning disobedient sons, (the aptly named Charlie Fuqua here) you can sympathize with their agitated state of mind.

It's truly bizarre that so many so-called Christians are enthralled with the Old Testament but seem profoundly ignorant of the New.

Every sperm is sacred. The

PeraclesPlease — Fri, 26 Oct 2012 21:39:31 +0000

In reply to Thanks, Cville. This makes

Every sperm is sacred. The bitchez? Not so much.

This has been a Reader's Digest condensed debate.

I think this is an

DF — Fri, 26 Oct 2012 21:33:19 +0000

In reply to You state the dilemma too

I think this is an interesting way to look at it. It occurs to me that I see life in terms that are at least somewhat different. Life appears to me to be far less discrete than the typical frame allows. Gametes are life. All cells are life. Life is actually a broad continuum of as yet unknown origin. I know that doesn't really work from the perspective of litigating the rights of discrete human entities, but I still think it's true.

You state the dilemma too

jollyroger — Fri, 26 Oct 2012 20:44:20 +0000

In reply to I'm glad to read a

You state the dilemma too broadly. I believe that the fertilized and emplanted embryo is a life, and its forcible ejection before independent viability is a "killing". I still believe that the decision to accomplish that end must reside solely with the embryo's host because of the evils that flow inevitably from any alternative legal structure.

You might say that he's a

DF — Fri, 26 Oct 2012 18:47:31 +0000

In reply to Good post. I think we over

You might say that he's a dreamer, but he's not the only one...