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It would be interesting to

Aunt Sam — Sat, 10 Nov 2012 17:19:10 +0000

It would be interesting to actually KNOW the facts about any union options these workers have had in the past, as well as what transpired in their responses.

I don't want to sound

ocean-kat — Sat, 10 Nov 2012 16:55:55 +0000

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I don't want to sound heartless because I do care. But I'm less pissed at Murray than I am at the workers and the democratic party. I expect the rich to try to treat the workers like dogs. What I don't expect is the workers to wag their tail and eat shit when it happens. I have no doubt what so ever that unions have tried to organize those workers. If they don't have a union its their choice. Their great grandfathers wouldn't have knuckled under. Coal miners led the union movement at one time. They fought and died for their rights.

It is and it has always been class warfare. We have a choice to join the fight or lick the hand that's holding us down.

I'm pissed at the democratic party that has turned its back on middle class America for years. Do they wonder why they're losing votes to republican fear mongering and race baiting? One reason is the workers no longer see the democratic party fighting for them

Wake up America

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lv0smG7ptcM

x2, Bruce.

AmericanDreamer — Sat, 10 Nov 2012 15:02:20 +0000

In reply to You know, I cannot get what

x2, Bruce.

You know, I cannot get what

Bruce Levine — Sat, 10 Nov 2012 14:44:47 +0000

In reply to Coal Magnate Lays Off 160 Workers In Response To Obama's Re-election

You know, I cannot get what this man did out of my mind. What he has done is just awful. And, while not as awful, I just cannot understand how this is not more of a story in the media. I'm not a media conspiratorialist and I understand how the whole Petraeus resignation is not going to play second fiddle to anything. But I do believe that right, left, center, we as a society don't take stories about every day American workers very seriously anymore.

But just think about what has happened here. These employees, without union protection are "at will" employees, meaning that they can be hired and fired for any reason or for no reason at all (unless they are protected by statutory prohibitions against race or sex discrimination, etc.). Here, they have lost their jobs because a rich man, who openly supports one candidate, has a hissy fit and flexes his muscles in response and in the process puts 160 American people out of work.

It is Saturday, and I'm off to pray right now (to the extent I'm not chasing around my little one--which can be just as rewarding). But the notion that this man has done what he has done and seals it with a prayer is just absolutely obscene and I'm sickened by it.

I just cannot get this man out of my mind.

I suppose if I were fortunate

AmericanDreamer — Sat, 10 Nov 2012 13:03:18 +0000

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I suppose if I were fortunate enough to be granted an appeal hearing prior to the administration of the smoting (smotation?) sentence, I could make the argument many of the Biblical faith tradition theologians seem to make. That we are perfect, in our deeply flawed and depraved way, because we have freedom to make decisions about how we respond to our circumstances, whatever they may be. That if we were always noble and good it would be because we do not really have such freedom, and that the perfection of our creation consists in that type of freedom. What would you advise, counselor?

The aggressive atheist Sam Harris has a short book out arguing against the concept of free will.

Agreed Ocean. I would be

Bruce Levine — Sat, 10 Nov 2012 01:33:57 +0000

In reply to As we all know this is just

Agreed Ocean. I would be shocked if Murray's operations were even close to unionized at this point. If there was a union this would never have happened.

As we all know this is just

ocean-kat — Sat, 10 Nov 2012 00:35:34 +0000

In reply to Coal Magnate Lays Off 160 Workers In Response To Obama's Re-election

As we all know this is just spite, but it the long term Murray will get his. If his mines aren't unionized I bet those workers will be very receptive to union organizer's arguments. If its already unionized you can bet that when that contract is up those workers will be inclined to hold out and strike and be very supportive of their negotiators. Workers in Murray's mines will have long memories.