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artappraiser — Fri, 21 Dec 2012 00:46:44 +0000

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[....] One of the world’s wealthiest men, Mr. Bloomberg plans to spend millions of dollars over the next two years to aid political candidates willing to oppose the gun lobby. He said he would not wait until 2014: the mayor’s “super PAC” is already looking at special elections next year, including governor’s races and an open House seat in Illinois.

Within days of the Newtown shootings, Mr. Bloomberg was on the phone with conservative senators, urging them to change their views. To his surprise, he said, some were willing to consider it.

“You could hear in their voice, ‘Enough is enough,’ ” he said.

The mayor plans an advertising campaign featuring Hollywood stars. And he has spoken with the White House, conferring with Vice President Joseph R. Biden Jr. about the presidential task force on gun policy that Mr. Biden will lead. [....]

Another excerpt from the article:

The latest chapter in the mayor’s gun crusade began a few minutes before 11 a.m. last Friday, when Mr. Bloomberg, leaving a meeting with Gov. Andrew M. Cuomo in Manhattan, glanced at his iPhone. A CNN news alert flashed across the screen: Students at an elementary school in Connecticut had been shot.

“Another disaster,” Mr. Bloomberg remembered thinking.

Three miles downtown, at City Hall, the mayor’s advisers began drafting a statement, but decided to delay its release until after President Obama had spoken. Mr. Bloomberg, aides said, wanted to see if the president would call for action — and to criticize him if he did not.

The mayor’s statement, issued just after 4 p.m., was blunt. “President Obama rightly sent his heartfelt condolences to the families in Newtown,” Mr. Bloomberg wrote, adding, “What we have not seen is leadership — not from the White House and not from Congress.”

The goal was to put immediate pressure on Washington for change. “The Democrats were unwilling to do it, and the Republicans didn’t want to,” said Howard Wolfson, the mayor’s chief communications strategist.

Mr. Bloomberg, meanwhile, took to the phones, calling members of Congress to urge the passage of an assault-weapons ban. To prepare his pitch, he instructed aides to find out how many Americans had been killed by guns since the Arizona shootings in 2011, when Mr. Obama last promised changes in the firearm laws. By Saturday, the mayor was on his private jet to Washington to push his case in an interview on “Meet the Press.”

It was a hectic weekend, and the culmination of six years of work by Mr. Bloomberg, who founded his national coalition, Mayors Against Illegal Guns, in 2006, galvanized by a series of grisly police shootings in New York.

I will preface this comment

Aunt Sam — Thu, 20 Dec 2012 13:57:17 +0000

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I will preface this comment by stating that yes, I doubt it will ever happen, but....

I think that gun owners should have to register all their guns - implement a federal law that all have 90 days to complete simple registration forms (i.e. name, address of owner, DOB with proof of identity presented much like driver's/marriage license; type of gun and serial number). This would all be inputted into national database for law enforcement access if weapon used in crime, etc.

If after the deadline any are found to be in possession of unregistered gun, they not only forfeit that one, but any and all others they possess and pay large fine.

Of course, all sales or gifts of guns must adhere to same process but with background checks etc.

It's just common sense.

we don't need you to protect

artappraiser — Thu, 20 Dec 2012 03:23:18 +0000

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we don't need you to protect us from the apocalypse

That's over with on Friday anyways!

BTW, interesting that in China some of the PTB think their school attacker (the one with the knife that also attacked 20 kids) was one of the Apocalypsers (Apocalyptics?) If that's what they're thinking here, I guess you could call their roundup a pre-emption effort on the violently mentally ill front?

Okay. So you are involved in

Richard Day — Thu, 20 Dec 2012 00:11:45 +0000

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Okay.

So you are involved in a 'domestic dispute' we get your guns!

So you are involved in an assault, we get your guns.

That is all right.

You have a dui and you cannot drive a car for awhile.

That is straight thinking.

Yup. Get into a bar fight,

erica20 — Wed, 19 Dec 2012 22:13:40 +0000

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Yup. Get into a bar fight, sorry, we don't need you to protect us from the apocalypse. It's a simple rule.

(Michael, thanks--I like simple rules.)

The claim is that most gun

Elusive Trope — Wed, 19 Dec 2012 21:57:54 +0000

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The claim is that most gun owners are "law abiding citizens." That would mean abide by the law. Break certain laws and one should forfeit one's ability to own a gun until one can prove otherwise. Domestic violence would definitely be one of those. Not only a DUI but intoxication in public.

I would replace stringent

Michael Wolraich — Wed, 19 Dec 2012 21:56:12 +0000

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I would replace stringent rules with simple rules. Stringent rules sounds repressive, like lightbulb regulations. Stringent rules are unappealing even if you agree with them. Simple rules sounds straightforward, like "Three strikes, you're out." Simple rules are appealing even if you disagree with them.