dagblog - Comments for "List of Newtown Rules" http://dagblog.com/reader-blogs/list-newtown-rules-15855 Comments for "List of Newtown Rules" en It's true--there will be http://dagblog.com/comment/171983#comment-171983 <a id="comment-171983"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/171976#comment-171976">You obviously know your stuff</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>It's true--there will be enforcement costs. But yes, these are situations where, if guns had been removed from these peoples' hands sooner, perhaps the tragedies would not have happened.</p> </div></div></div> Sat, 22 Dec 2012 14:51:14 +0000 erica20 comment 171983 at http://dagblog.com Oh you have me weeping by the http://dagblog.com/comment/171978#comment-171978 <a id="comment-171978"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/reader-blogs/list-newtown-rules-15855">List of Newtown Rules</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Oh you have me weeping by the third paragraph.</p> <p>Oh I love Newtown and their citizens.</p> <p>Wonderful!</p> <p>This is remarkable, truly remarkable!</p> <p>I must ponder this for awhile!</p> </div></div></div> Sat, 22 Dec 2012 09:05:17 +0000 Richard Day comment 171978 at http://dagblog.com You obviously know your stuff http://dagblog.com/comment/171976#comment-171976 <a id="comment-171976"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/reader-blogs/list-newtown-rules-15855">List of Newtown Rules</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>You obviously know your stuff about where the main troubles with guns lie.</p> <p>I just thought it might be helpful for you to have a recent example I happened upon from late October (from the supposed land of extra gun control, California):</p> <p><a href="http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/10/20/14579605-father-dies-shielding-children-from-gunman-who-set-home-ablaze-boy-killed?lite">Father dies shielding children from gunman who set home ablaze; boy killed</a>; note</p> <blockquote> <p>police had been called several times in the past for disturbances.</p> </blockquote> <p>Here's the next day follow-up story:</p> <p><a href="http://articles.latimes.com/2012/oct/22/local/la-me-inglewood-shooting-20121022">Details emerge after deadly rampage</a></p> <p>From that, here's the damages more clearly:</p> <blockquote> <p>Filimon Lamas and his wife, Gloria Jimenez, tried to protect their four children, authorities said. Lamas was found slumped over three of them; Jimenez, despite being shot in both legs and her pelvis, jumped a fence and ran from the home cradling their 4-year-old son, who had been shot in the head.<br /><br /> Lamas, 30, and the 4-year-old later died. On Sunday, Jimenez, 28, remained in stable condition at UCLA Medical Center. The couple's 7-year-old daughter, shot in the chest, was "critical but stable," police said.<br /><br /> Their 6-year-old son, shot in the pelvis, was released from the hospital Sunday and was resting with family members, a relative said.</p> </blockquote> <p>Here's the perp:</p> <blockquote> <p>Police suspect that Moses indiscriminately opened fire on the family who rented a bungalow on the same property, blaming them for an eviction notice he had received from their landlord.<br /><br /> The family had called police several times asking them to conduct a welfare check after becoming concerned about Moses' increasing isolation and odd behavior, a relative said. The landlord said he had obtained an eviction order Tuesday that gave the man 15 days to move out.</p> </blockquote> <p>Here's the licensing he had:</p> <blockquote> <p>Online records from the California Department of Consumer Affairs show that Moses has held a "guard/ patrolperson registration" since 1984. He appears to have kept up with the renewal process, as the registration was valid through August 2013.</p> </blockquote> <p>Police should have been able to take his registration and guns away.</p> <p>And don't forget restraining orders;<a href="http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/10/21/14596819-three-killed-in-shooting-at-milwaukee-area-salon-suspect-found-dead-at-scene?"> around the same time, outside Milwaukee</a>:</p> <blockquote> <p>A man who was ordered last week to turn over all his weapons in a domestic dispute opened fire Sunday at his estranged wife's workplace near Milwaukee, killing three women and injuring four others, authorities said. He then apparently shot himself to death, police said.</p> </blockquote> <p>That one was obviously an enforcement problem, don't forget laws like you are suggesting require serious enforcement, and that costs more tax money.</p> </div></div></div> Sat, 22 Dec 2012 07:46:20 +0000 artappraiser comment 171976 at http://dagblog.com