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Biden's report-- that

demunchained — Sun, 30 Dec 2012 01:41:43 +0000

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Biden's report-- that congress will more or less IGNORE.

Couple of things: Let's first

demunchained — Sat, 29 Dec 2012 23:37:22 +0000

In reply to What Should We Do to Stop Massacres?

Couple of things:

Let's first stop the nonsense that "rampage killings can't be stopped".

http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2012/12/28/portage-teen-arrested-for-making-threats-on-facebook/

The other nonsensical notion perpetrated by the "austerity" frauds is "we can't afford more/better security in our schools/universities".

What a load. at it's peak, congress was spending at least $8 BILLION per month on the Iraq fiasco. I guarantee you putting 1-2 armed security guards in our schools and vastly improving their security systems does not cost $8 Billion per month.. nowhere near that.

Also, read Bamford's piece if you've not already done so:

http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2012/03/ff_nsadatacenter/

If you have a swimming pool

Anonymous — Tue, 25 Dec 2012 19:57:31 +0000

In reply to If you have a swimming pool

If you have a swimming pool without a fence, you can be sued for negligence if a neighbor kid sneaks in drowns.

Minnesota would go broke, if it had to secure it's 10,000 + lakes, from kids sneaking into them.

Can Minnesoa get sued, because some parent, fails to watch or teach their kids about water safety?

The NRA has classes, to teach the young about firearms; but that's not good enough, for those who want to ban guns.

Each accident, each atrocity, is a another opportunity to infringe.

You don't think so? .... Within an hour, Feinstein and others were pushing for a ban

"Let the felonious criminals out of jail" cries the bleeding hearts. Then wonder why theres so much violent crime. "We must make sure the criminals don't get guns"

How about we make sure they can't...... keep the criminals locked up, so our right to bear arms won't be infringed.

Get tough on criminals. Not on law abiding citizens, who have a right to bear arms.

"the right of the people to

Anonymous — Tue, 25 Dec 2012 16:25:31 +0000

In reply to In many jurisdictions,

"the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

Where in the Bill of Rights, does it say you have a right to alcohol?

According to a chart from the CDC- 2009

How do injury deaths occur?

Poisonings were responsible for 24 percent of injury deaths, followed by motor vehicle traffic crashes (19 percent), and firearms (18 percent)

Even with all the automobile regulations, the death rate is higher.

In many jurisdictions,

PeraclesPlease — Tue, 25 Dec 2012 10:11:25 +0000

In reply to Talk about rants? We simply

In many jurisdictions, alcohol sale is restricted and controlled by the liquor board or other local council.

There was no 7-11 beer sale in Maryland and 7-11 was denied a permit in Echo Park, while 3.2% only is allowed at many gas stations, etc. (many dry counties in the South as well) Most of this is about limiting easy availability to drivers to lower the chance that someone driving will grab hard alcohol and continue driving. It's not a cure-all, but it's exactly the principle of restricting easy access to someone who might then commit a crime, such as a legal gun in the hands of someone in a maniacal mood

This bit about the mentally impaired is nonsense - most gun killings are via accidents (kids playing with dad's gun? the old "I didn't think it was loaded" mistake?), domestic violence escalating out of control, people carrying guns at sports events and in the car when accidents happen, and petty armed criminals and "tough guys".

There's no way to pre-emptively get the wrong guys locked up. Who knew Dick Cheney was going to shoot someone in the face? Who knew George Zimmerman was gong to get carried away with his neighborhood watch gig and shoot someone? Perhaps an asshole like Phil Spector could have been locked up early, but our system protects the rich, famous, well-connected, and that won't change in the next millenium.

"No, you cant (sic) buy that

Michael Maiello — Mon, 24 Dec 2012 22:32:26 +0000

In reply to Whats next; take away our

"No, you cant (sic) buy that radio station or newspaper company."

Funny you should mention that. We do actually regulate such matters, particularly when it comes to the acquisition of media companies.

The goal is to take away the

Aunt Sam — Mon, 24 Dec 2012 21:30:14 +0000

In reply to Whats next; take away our

The goal is to take away the automatic weapons and the magazines that give any the ability to fire dozens and dozens of bullets repeatedly in seconds. The other goal is to stop the ability to purchase/own guns without a background check and registration.

Per the second amendment, it does not state that you can have WMD's, tanks, grenades, etc. anymore than it delivers the right to possess and use these type of automatic weapons.

People can still have their guns for hunting and personal protection if needed, but how about some common sense and doing what we can to at least reduce the ability of those who use these automatic weapons and magazines to harm/maim/kill as many innocents as quickly as possible. It's the least we can and need to do IMO.

Whats next; take away our

Anonymous — Mon, 24 Dec 2012 17:45:28 +0000

In reply to "Should legal ownership be

Whats next; take away our rights to free speech because YOU find parts of it objectionable?

"No, you cant buy that radio station or newspaper company."

"No you cant own that gun"

"Should legal ownership be

Anonymous — Mon, 24 Dec 2012 16:33:19 +0000

In reply to Talk about rants? We simply

"Should legal ownership be denied, because someone else might do something illegal?"

Yep.

But would it stop massacres?

Orion — Mon, 24 Dec 2012 12:54:29 +0000

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But would it stop massacres? Not unless we placed multiple armed responders at every park, playground, pool, day camp, playing field, Sunday school, daycare center, shopping mall, or any other place where children gather.

Having responders in areas like movie theaters and schools doesn't really sound that crazy. Isn't that actually what police exist for in the first place? If the world wasn't like this to begin with, they wouldn't be there to begin with. We had to take our shoes off at the airport after 9/11 - it seems like this is actually a bit more serious than the threat of terrorism, to be blunt.

What is insane is the idea of giving teachers guns. What conservative came up with something so ridiculous? Some teachers have been known to molest, abuse and harass students. Give them guns and you will have a teacher inflicting a massacre on some school down the line. I'm not sure if conservatives who propose that also realize they'd be arming teacher's unions, haha.