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artappraiser — Fri, 11 Jan 2013 18:51:04 +0000

File under "be careful what you wish for, as you might get it":

New York City to Restrict Prescription Painkillers in Public Hospitals’ Emergency Rooms

By Anemona Hartocolis, New York Times, Jan. 10/11, 2013

Some of the most common and most powerful prescription painkillers on the market will be restricted sharply in the emergency rooms at New York City’s 11 public hospitals, Mayor Michael R. Bloomberg said Thursday in an effort to crack down on what he called a citywide and national epidemic of prescription drug abuse.

Under the new city policy, most public hospital patients will no longer be able to get more than three days’ worth of narcotic painkillers like Vicodin and Percocet. Long-acting painkillers, including OxyContin, a familiar remedy for chronic backache and arthritis, as well as Fentanyl patches and methadone, will not be dispensed at all. And lost, stolen or destroyed prescriptions will not be refilled.

City officials said the policy was aimed at reducing the growing dependency on painkillers and preventing excess amounts of drugs from being taken out of medicine chests and sold on the street or abused by teenagers and others who want to get high.

“Abuse of prescription painkillers in our city has increased alarmingly,” Mr. Bloomberg said in announcing the new policy at Elmhurst Hospital Center, a public hospital in Queens. Over 250,000 New Yorkers over age 12 are abusing prescription painkillers, he said, leading to rising hospital admissions for overdoses and deaths, Medicare fraud by doctors who write false prescriptions and violent crime like “holdups at neighborhood pharmacies.”

But some critics said that poor and uninsured patients sometimes used the emergency room as their primary source of medical care. The restrictions, they said, could deprive doctors in the public hospital system — whose mission it is to treat poor people — of the flexibility that they need to respond to patients.

“Here is my problem with legislative medicine,” said Dr. Alex Rosenau, president-elect of the American College of Emergency Physicians and senior vice chairman of emergency medicine at Lehigh Valley Health Network in Eastern Pennsylvania. “It prevents me from being a professional and using my judgment.” [....]

(I looked to post this on your more recent thread which referenced James Holmes and Vicodin, but you seemed to have deleted it.)

That's a cool article. Thanks

Orion — Mon, 31 Dec 2012 03:10:46 +0000

In reply to He makes some good

That's a cool article. Thanks for posting it.

I'm not quite sure how it is

nothere — Sun, 30 Dec 2012 23:51:56 +0000

In reply to Adam Lanza was diagnosed with

I'm not quite sure how it is that you've become, apparently, the go-to blogger on mental health at DagBlog; I mean for crying out loud:

You say: "...[SSRI] make people cold, hostile and emotionless by shutting off the parts of the brain that create anxiety and depression."

At best it's an inapt phrasing. More likely, it's a fundamental lack of understanding. Whatever it is, it's so bad that the response: no, it does not 'shut off a part of the brain' is equally ignorant.

Never mind that acute anxiety is never warm, friendly, and empathic (which behaviors are arguably the opposite of cold, hostile, and emotionless); and some depression untreated is, metaphorically, cold: people have trouble getting out of bed, and they feel such a heavy grief or sadness it swamps any other emotion; and that is about as close, IMO, as one can get to emotionless: the experience of drowning in sadness as the defining state of a person's life.

Then you say:

"...the mass intake of psych meds is really dangerous. Psych meds should only be given out to serious mental cases in mental hospitals (which we don't have any more..."

This is a mind-boggler. There are no mental hospitals? No state psychiatric institutions, anywhere? That's obviously wrong; so why are you typing it? Because you are deeply confused? Because your anti-psychiatry agenda is deeply ingrained, or you have chosen to ignore the obvious, or both?

To hear you tell it, it's as if the entire psycho-pharmacological industry is feeding millions a substance that amounts to poison; as if everyone, from the lowest lab assistant to M.D., are a bunch of little Mengeles just doing their job: creating a zombified populace bent toward psychopathology.

Because your description of cold, hostile, and emotionless is exactly that: the description of a psychopath. So, AFAICT, your entire set of posts are nothing more than the casting of blame on the other. Which behavior, I should point out, pretty clearly indicates that you are the one with a problem with which you are simply not dealing. If I were listening to you in a competently run group of people actually dealing with, or even attempting to deal with, their issues I'd do there what I'm doing now: calling out your bullshit.

Frankly, I think this is nothing more than a gambit to draw attention to yourself as you refuse, and find further reasons to refuse, actually dealing with your issues.

He makes some good

artappraiser — Sun, 30 Dec 2012 08:59:56 +0000

In reply to You're Not Adam Lanza

He makes some good arguments:

Guns and Mental Illness by Joe Nocera, Dec 28 NYT

It is a jump to go from

demunchained — Sun, 30 Dec 2012 01:50:26 +0000

In reply to Wish I had a dollar for every

It is a jump to go from having personal demons to connecting it with someone who massacred elementary school kids.

No, it's not. I'm not sure how you can think this is the case when we've had several rampage killings this year alone.

You're implying Lanza is an outlier-- an aberration which happens rarely. Really?

The stats don't back you up.

Loon? Isn't name calling, a

Resistance — Sun, 30 Dec 2012 01:30:14 +0000

In reply to Not likely, but are you gonna

Loon? Isn't name calling, a form of bullying, an uncivil act?

I'm not worried about Obama or the government, it's people like you, that frighten citizens who find peace, knowing the Bill of Rights protects us.

Us; The "WE" in the Declaration ...... In order to form a more perfect Union.

Wish I had a dollar for every

Orion — Sun, 30 Dec 2012 00:26:31 +0000

In reply to Look - the world is messed

Wish I had a dollar for every time I heard this lame rationale.. it appears you're saying we're powerless to deal with the gun rampage problem-- I disagree.

No - and I apologize if that's how it sounded. This article was aimed more at people who were connecting this act with their own lives. There have been multiple articles published that do this. Everyone has had problems and even violent episodes are common as part of humanity. It is a jump to go from having personal demons to connecting it with someone who massacred elementary school kids.

LOL FYI Eric Harris

Orion — Sun, 30 Dec 2012 00:23:51 +0000

In reply to Not likely, but are you gonna

LOL

FYI Eric Harris complained himself to his father that Luvox made him "feel violent." Several of the shooting victims have filed suits against pharmaceutical companies.

Not likely, but are you gonna

NCD — Sat, 29 Dec 2012 23:44:24 +0000

In reply to Respectfully, there is no

Not likely, but are you gonna buy some extra propane tanks just 'in case' Obama wants to take them away, you loon?

Respectfully, there is no

Resistance — Sat, 29 Dec 2012 22:18:26 +0000

In reply to Eh, that is an extreme

Respectfully, there is no guarantee, that all future assaults are going to be perpetrated, by a lone individual.

Heres one example you should recall

Eric David Harris and Dylan Bennet Klebold were the two American high school seniors who committed the Columbine High School massacre.

According to early accounts of the shooting, Harris and Klebold were very unpopular students and frequent targets of bullying at their high school.

Harris ……….created a set of levels for the game Doom.

The sites openly espoused hatred for the people of their neighborhood and the world in general

By that time, Dylan Klebold had already arrived at the school in a separate car and the two boys left two gym bags, each containing a 20-pound propane bomb, inside the school cafeteria

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eric_Harris_and_Dylan_Klebold

Are we going to ban propane tanks?