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OK, Boehner's been

acanuck — Thu, 03 Jan 2013 20:13:19 +0000

In reply to My bet is that he's made his

OK, Boehner's been re-elected, 220 to 192 over Pelosi, with 3 votes for Cantor, and a handful for favorite sons. The fact he got only three means Cantor didn't mount a serious challenge. Perhaps even he realizes the last thing his party needs is another divisive public battle that leaves the House floor soaked with Republican blood. As it was, it took a second vote for Boehner to hit 50%.

Is there not a provision to

The Decider — Thu, 03 Jan 2013 00:47:24 +0000

In reply to Boehner's Terrible, Horrible, No Good Very Bad New Year

Is there not a provision to force a bill onto the floor? I recall that, during the McCain/Feingold debate, Tom Delay stated that the campaign finance bill would only reach the floor over his dead body. It got there, and I believe it was through a measure to force it out for a vote. It could have been only within the GOP caucus, but I thought that it was at large membership signing a petition to force the bill to the floor.

Maybe in the end he decided

Anonymous trope — Wed, 02 Jan 2013 23:08:53 +0000

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Maybe in the end he decided it was better to not be speaker of the house than go down in history as the leader of the whackjobs that took the country over the cliff

My bet is that he's made his

acanuck — Wed, 02 Jan 2013 20:47:51 +0000

In reply to Basically impossible. If he

My bet is that he's made his move, Michael. If he wants the job, I think it's his. God save us all.

OK, now it begins to make

acanuck — Wed, 02 Jan 2013 20:42:28 +0000

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OK, now it begins to make sense. Cantor declared war on Boehner by opposing his fiscal-cliff vote, and the speaker retaliated by deep-sixing the Sandy relief package the majority leader had been "tirelessly working toward."

The optics were going to be terrible either way. Boehner puts all his credibility on the line, and fails to muster a majority of his own party. Then Cantor makes an impassioned call for bipartisan support of hurricane victims, and gets a virtually unanimous yes vote.

Instead, despite having to carry his balls to the podium in a Ziploc bag, Boehner shows his ex-colleague that, as long as he's still standing (which may not be for long), he too knows how and where to insert the shiv. "It's only a flesh wound!"

Basically impossible. If he

Michael Wolraich — Wed, 02 Jan 2013 20:25:17 +0000

In reply to How easy or hard is it to

Basically impossible. If he doesn't move tomorrow, he'll have to wait two years.

How easy or hard is it to

LULU — Wed, 02 Jan 2013 20:10:11 +0000

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How easy or hard is it to recall the speaker and replace him during his elected term? I bet Cantor would like to let Boehner win the Speaker-ship again and hold the job through the next couple “crisis”, the resolutions of which will leave a lot of pissed off people on all sides, and then pull a coup and replace him.

Also interesting...

Michael Wolraich — Wed, 02 Jan 2013 18:45:06 +0000

In reply to If I were Boehner I would

Also interesting...

Wednesday morning on the House floor, New York Republican Reps. Peter King and Michael Grimm blamed Boehner for what they described as a betrayal.

“It was entirely the speaker’s decision,” said a GOP leadership aide, who doesn’t work in Boehner’s office. “As to why we’re not voting on it now? That’s a question I can’t answer.”

A Boehner aide told TPM on Wednesday that the speaker intends to prioritize the Sandy relief package when the new Congress convenes Thursday, and has shared that with members of the New York and New Jersey delegation.

“The speaker will make the supplemental his first priority in the new Congress,” the aide said.

At a press conference in New York, Sen. Chuck Schumer (D-NY) told reporters Wednesday that he’s “distraught” and “angry” over the House’s failure to hold a vote, blaming it on a House GOP “leadership squabble.” He said Majority Leader Eric Cantor (R-VA) has been “truly helpful” in piecing together the package and blamed Boehner.

“Cantor has been very much for us, but Speaker Boehner … pulled the rug out from under us,” Schumer said. “It’s a Boehner betrayal.”

A Cantor aide affirmed that the majority leader has been pushing for the package.

“Majority Leader Cantor is committed to ensuring the urgent needs of New York and New Jersey residents are met, and he has been working tirelessly toward that goal,” the aide told TPM.

http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2013/01/boehner-sandy-relief.php

Breitbart: Sources: Enough

Michael Wolraich — Wed, 02 Jan 2013 18:44:16 +0000

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Breitbart: Sources: Enough Republicans Willing to Unseat Speaker Boehner

The source is AMA, which has been lobbying for Boehner to go, so take that with a grain of salt.

Loathe is too strong a word.

Michael Wolraich — Wed, 02 Jan 2013 17:26:38 +0000

In reply to Yes, I know you were using

Loathe is too strong a word. Everyone liked "Uncle Joe." He was funny, salty, and self-deprecating. Roosevelt cooperated closely with Cannon for most of his presidency. But in his second term, the relationship became more tempestuous. Roosevelt pushed a more ambitious domestic agenda, and Cannon asserted his authority more tyrannically by packing the committees with conservative lackeys and refusing to allow progressive bills to come to a vote, even when they commanded majority support.