dagblog - Comments for "Reasonable gun storage"

I didn't miss it Ramona. I

Resistance — Fri, 11 Jan 2013 01:18:12 +0000

In reply to As I said, Resistance (and

I didn't miss it Ramona.

I believe in the apocalypse,

Try surviving a day when anarchy rules. When those who have the arms roam the streets. I recall the history of ancient Jerusalem under siege by the Romans; NO ONE could escape. No food in, No one out. Gangs ruled; confiscating everything from the meek.

As someone pointed out about Zombie attacks, it wont be zombies, it'll be our neighbors trying to survive.

Scores killed in multiple Pakistan bombings, mass shootings, NOAA telling us the storms are getting bigger and more violent.

The folks in Washington can't chew gum and walk, let alone solve our financial crisis and they want to tackle Gun Control, instead of focusing on a very real and imminent threat

What are we doing, to prepare for the next Storm Sandy? But instead Gun control sucks all the oxygen out of the room, diverting our National attention away from thousands upon thousands who could be impacted.

I wonder if the folks devastated by Hurricane Sandy, thought about a day without government and whether anyone would show up to help?

Imagine the anger if NO help arrived.

As I said, Resistance (and

Ramona — Thu, 10 Jan 2013 23:22:26 +0000

In reply to Thalidomide? Nuclear testing

As I said, Resistance (and you apparently missed), you may not like what they do sometimes but try doing without them for a day.

Guns don't kill

artappraiser — Thu, 10 Jan 2013 21:12:45 +0000

In reply to Yes, some do ignore programs

Guns don't kill dictatorships, people do

Thalidomide was the result of

AnonymousRm — Thu, 10 Jan 2013 19:00:45 +0000

In reply to Thalidomide? Nuclear testing

Thalidomide was the result of lax government oversight. Rules stiffened as a result.

Thalidomide? Nuclear testing

Resistance — Thu, 10 Jan 2013 17:47:23 +0000

In reply to Sometimes the government does

Thalidomide? Nuclear testing on soldiers?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuskegee_syphilis_experiment

Sometimes the government does

Ramona — Thu, 10 Jan 2013 17:37:27 +0000

In reply to Yes, some do ignore programs

Sometimes the government does know best. The government is of, by and for the people, not just you and me. Societies have to have governing bodies. You may not like all that your government does but try doing without it for a day and see how you manage.

Yes, some do ignore programs

Resistance — Thu, 10 Jan 2013 17:27:47 +0000

In reply to "The NRA has safety training

Yes, some do ignore programs designed to safe lives

Would you clarify which people, or are you lumping all homo sapiens into the ignore group?

Just as I cant make people, give their kids vaccinations, although the program that is designed, urges all to take advantage of the program

I suppose the day will come when those who refuse, will be forced to comply, in order to save lives.

There goes individual liberties, the government will direct your choices.

The Government knows best.

"The NRA has safety training

erica20 — Thu, 10 Jan 2013 16:34:46 +0000

In reply to The NRA has safety training

"The NRA has safety training programs, which strongly urge that all firearms be stored properly."

And yet, people ignore these programs.

The NRA has safety training

Resistance — Thu, 10 Jan 2013 02:09:40 +0000

In reply to Reasonable gun storage

The NRA has safety training programs, which strongly urges, that all firearms be stored properly

In a home, with the presence of guns and children, it is the parent’s obligation, to use a sensible way, to address the safety issues.

"Not-so Safe-Storage Laws: The only ones 'safe' are the intruders,"

In truth, all states have reckless endangerment and negligence laws which apply to guns, drain cleaner, knives, vodka, or anything else that might cause injury in the hands of a small child. Even without an HCI-mandated gun-lock law, parents know plenty of ways to keep items away from children without using mechanical locks.

The significant danger of gun-storage laws was brought home in an August incident in Merced, California, where a pitchfork-wielding man attacked Jessica Carpenter's 7-year-old brother and 9-year-old sister. It's neither a surprise nor a coincidence that the cause of this tragedy went unreported by the national press.

Jessica's father had kept a gun in the home, and his children had learned how to fire it. Jessica, age 14, is a very good shot. But by California law, the gun had to be locked up when the parents weren't home. So, when the murderer attacked, Jessica wasn't able to retrieve the gun to save her siblings. She ran to a neighbor, and begged for help. By the time the police showed up, the 7-year-old boy and the 9-year-old girl had been stabbed to death with the pitchfork.

We are told that "reasonable" trigger-lock laws are the cure for firearm accidents and gun thefts. What we are not told is that trigger-locks won't stop 10-year-olds, who can pop them off with screwdrivers, or break them with hammers. Such locks certainly won't stop determined criminals. So just who is the target of these "reasonable" gun laws, and what's their real purpose?

“Rather than saving lives, could it be that trigger-lock laws are intended to condition Americans into believing that firearms aren't acceptable for self-defense, or worth the bother?"

Long ago, Sir Walter Raleigh wrote that the "sophisticated and subtle tyrant" will "unarm his people, and store up their weapons, under pretence of keeping them safe."

I wasn't thinking ten minutes

erica20 — Thu, 10 Jan 2013 02:01:37 +0000

In reply to Your proposal is a way of

I wasn't thinking ten minutes away at all. I was thinking of a very small biometric clip container that could only be opened by the gun owner. Both gun and "Clip Keeper" could be kept right next to the bed if desired, and the only tradeoff in self-defense would be the time required to open the "Clip Keeper" and load the gun when necessary. In fact, the only person who could load the weapon would be the rightful owner. (Or perhaps the owner's spouse, if you had two clip-keepers :^)

An unloaded gun is really nothing more than a club, much safer than a loaded one...especially if it's picked up by a child, who can't open the "Clip Keeper."