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Agreed.

Michael Maiello — Thu, 17 Jan 2013 15:42:58 +0000

In reply to It's kind of ruthless, isn't

Agreed.

I know that, but believe it

Resistance — Thu, 17 Jan 2013 15:00:04 +0000

In reply to That fable isn't about envy.

I know that, but believe it or not, when shrub was in office and then again in the election of McCain and Obama,I received a lot more Emails.

Suggesting that the (R) Ant worked so hard and saved, and the liberal ant, envied what the ant had accumulated.

"Save us Mr Ant, give us some shelter, give us some food, you greedy dung beetle or we'll just take it. Tax him for everything he has"

That was the fear mongering by the right, keep Obama out of office, he'll tax you for everything you got.

It's kind of ruthless, isn't

Orlando — Thu, 17 Jan 2013 13:34:01 +0000

In reply to Beyond just color, I'm

It's kind of ruthless, isn't it? You're too old to be productive, so we shouldn't take care of you any more? I don't want to live in a place that thinks that way.

Beyond just color, I'm

Michael Maiello — Thu, 17 Jan 2013 13:23:56 +0000

In reply to I think what you say is more

Beyond just color, I'm intrigued by the notion that a retiree, after years of work has "left the economy," as Yglesias puts it. I wonder if they would say the same thing about a startup entepreneur, movie star or professional athlete who makes enough money to retire at 30 or 40 and does so? Have they "dropped out" of the economy? Or just won the game?

That fable isn't about envy.

Orlando — Thu, 17 Jan 2013 13:22:33 +0000

In reply to Green? But they'll say green

That fable isn't about envy.

Green? But they'll say green

Resistance — Thu, 17 Jan 2013 12:04:58 +0000

In reply to I think what you say is more

Green?

But they'll say green with envy.

They'll remind us of the Ant and the Grasshopper fable.

I think what you say is more

Orlando — Thu, 17 Jan 2013 12:01:46 +0000

In reply to The old "I've got mine, now

I think what you say is more or less true, but my point was more that the people who complain about the system still take full advantage of the system. They just deem themselves worthy and others as unworthy. Guess what color worthy is.

The old "I've got mine, now

Resistance — Thu, 17 Jan 2013 11:56:18 +0000

In reply to I think the key point here is

The old "I've got mine, now go get yours"

The new , Go get yours." It is instead "I've got mine and now I am going to get yours and everyone else's, too. Deal with it." Can you say Halliburton (No bid contracts)? Romney?

I think the key point here is

Orlando — Thu, 17 Jan 2013 09:03:49 +0000

In reply to The haters are welcome to

I think the key point here is that, just like with other entitlement programs, people who support heavy cuts do not believe that they (or people in their families) are the "drain on the system." So, obviously, their parents and grandparents would be the "smart" ones and would be prepared financially for ruin, catastrophic illness, etc.

If only. I saw Carville a few

ocean-kat — Thu, 17 Jan 2013 04:45:23 +0000

In reply to The haters are welcome to

If only. I saw Carville a few years ago respond to a republican making that argument. he said, "Don't these people read history. A significant number of them didn't take care of their parents. So we had elderly living on the streets and in rat infested apartments eating out of dumpsters and eating cat food. Do we really want to go back to that?"