dagblog - Comments for "Militants Seize Americans and Other Hostages in Algeria (related to Mali operation)" http://dagblog.com/link/militants-seize-americans-and-other-hostages-algeria-related-mali-operation-16029 Comments for "Militants Seize Americans and Other Hostages in Algeria (related to Mali operation)" en Hiding, Praying, Tied to http://dagblog.com/comment/173635#comment-173635 <a id="comment-173635"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/link/militants-seize-americans-and-other-hostages-algeria-related-mali-operation-16029">Militants Seize Americans and Other Hostages in Algeria (related to Mali operation)</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><blockquote> <p><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/19/world/africa/scenes-of-terror-at-oil-field-hostages-bound-to-explosives.html?hp&amp;_r=0">Hiding, Praying, Tied to Bombs: Captives Detail Algerian Ordeal</a></p> <p>By Lydia Polgreen and Scott Sayare, <em>New York Times,</em> Jan 18/19, 2013</p> <p>The gunmen, dressed in fatigues and wearing turbans, stormed in well before dawn aboard pickup trucks, announcing their arrival with a burst of gunfire.</p> <p itemprop="articleBody">Dozens of employees were eating breakfast at the time before heading off to the vast network of tubes and silos of the In Amenas gas field, where hundreds of Algerians and foreigners work to extract natural gas from the arid sands of the Sahara.</p> <p itemprop="articleBody">“God is great,” the gunmen cried as they arrived.</p> <p itemprop="articleBody">It was the beginning of a terrifying ordeal — one in which foreign hostages would come under fire from both the gunmen holding them and the Algerian government soldiers trying to free them. For many of the captives, it is an ordeal that has yet to end.</p> <p itemprop="articleBody">Some hostages were forced to wear explosives on their bodies. Others hid under beds and on rooftops, praying to survive but expecting death. One was shot in the back while his fellow captives looked on. Left by their captors with their cellphones, some phoned home with terrifying accounts of the horrors unfolding all around. [.....]</p> </blockquote> </div></div></div> Sat, 19 Jan 2013 10:11:53 +0000 artappraiser comment 173635 at http://dagblog.com Algeria says 600 hostages http://dagblog.com/comment/173525#comment-173525 <a id="comment-173525"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/link/militants-seize-americans-and-other-hostages-algeria-related-mali-operation-16029">Militants Seize Americans and Other Hostages in Algeria (related to Mali operation)</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><blockquote> <p><a href="http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2013/01/17/algeria-hostages/1841343/">Algeria says 600 hostages freed; terrorists say 35 died</a><br /> By Oren Dorell, Charles McPhedran and Louise Osborne, <em>USA TODAY,</em></p> <p>3:39p.m. EST January 17, 2013</p> </blockquote> <blockquote> <h1 itemprop="name headline "> <span style="font-size:13px;"><a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/middle-east-live/2013/jan/17/algerian-islamists-hostages-standoff-live"><em>Guardian</em> live updates</a></span></h1> <p class="stand-first-alone" data-component="comp : r2 : Resource : standfirst_cta" itemprop="description">Fears for hostages as Algeria attacks gas complex <b class="live-stamp">Live</b></p> <p class="stand-first-alone" data-component="comp : r2 : Resource : standfirst_cta" itemprop="description">• Reports of deaths of hostages and kidnappers<br /> • 'Military operation under way' - UK Foreign Office<br /> • Irishman free and has made contact with family<br /> • <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/middle-east-live/2013/jan/17/algerian-islamists-hostages-standoff-live#block-50f83b8195cb5d055131b67a">Read a summary of key events</a></p> </blockquote> </div></div></div> Thu, 17 Jan 2013 20:58:16 +0000 artappraiser comment 173525 at http://dagblog.com Reports of Airstrikes, http://dagblog.com/comment/173518#comment-173518 <a id="comment-173518"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/link/militants-seize-americans-and-other-hostages-algeria-related-mali-operation-16029">Militants Seize Americans and Other Hostages in Algeria (related to Mali operation)</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p><a href="http://www.voanews.com/content/al-qaida-militants-hold-41-hostages-in-algeria/1585546.html">Reports of Airstrikes, Casualties at Algerian Hostage Site</a><br /> VOA News, Jan 17</p> <div class="al al-with-snippet" id=":15"> <div class="al-link-wrapper"> <a class="article usg-AFQjCNFGN26MoSV7qsjiELMNlNjOlb_Lcg sig2-AHBbjckpW0s9snLbVeinJQ did--5640003223772295869" href="http://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/18/world/africa/algeria-militants-hostages.html" id="MAE4AEgAUABgAmoCdXM" target="_blank"><span class="titletext">Some Hostages Killed, but Raid Rescues Many, Algeria Says</span></a></div> <div class="al-attribution-wrapper"> <table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="al-attribution single-line-height"><tbody><tr><td class="al-attribution-cell source-cell"> <span class="al-attribution-source">New York Times</span></td> <td class="al-attribution-cell timestamp-cell"> <span class="dash-separator"> - </span><span class="al-attribution-timestamp">‎12 minutes ago‎</span></td> <td class="al-attribution-cell sharebar-cell"> <table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="share-bar-table yesscript" id=":5f"><tbody><tr><td class="share-bar-cell sharebox-cell">  </td> <td class="share-bar-cell">  </td> <td class="share-bar-cell">  </td> </tr></tbody></table></td> </tr></tbody></table></div> <div class="al-snippet-text"> BAMAKO, Mali — Algerian forces assaulted a heavily armed group of Islamist extremists with dozens of hostages including Americans and other foreigners in a remote Algerian desert gas field facility on Thursday, killing a large number of the kidnappers and <b>...</b></div> <div class="al-snippet-text">  </div> </div> <div class="al al-with-snippet" id=":16"> <div class="al-link-wrapper"> <a class="article usg-AFQjCNHGk9HIOV5RNKtKegOCl-LSmQba-g sig2-Nbh5LzOsrnsV7R5mTSM2CQ did-5429374596485280118" href="http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887323468604578247332257278740.html" id="MAE4AEgAUABgAmoCdXM" target="_blank"><span class="titletext">Fatalities Among Algeria Hostages</span></a></div> <div class="al-attribution-wrapper"> <table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="al-attribution single-line-height" height="24" width="228"><tbody><tr><td class="al-attribution-cell source-cell"> <span class="al-attribution-source">Wall Street Journal</span></td> <td class="al-attribution-cell timestamp-cell"> <span class="dash-separator"> - </span><span class="al-attribution-timestamp">‎20 minutes ago‎</span></td> <td class="al-attribution-cell sharebar-cell"> <table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="share-bar-table yesscript" id=":57"><tbody><tr><td class="share-bar-cell sharebox-cell">  </td> <td class="share-bar-cell">  </td> <td class="share-bar-cell">  </td> </tr></tbody></table></td> </tr></tbody></table></div> <div class="al-snippet-text"> Governments scrambled to find out more information about the fate of their citizens as an Algerian official said some hostages were killed during a strike against suspected Islamic militants in Algeria.</div> <div class="al-snippet-text">  </div> <div class="al-snippet-text"> <div class="al-link-wrapper"> <a class="article usg-AFQjCNFIN4c8mIURYeBJw29xqp0W2uOamw sig2-gE2GqAvhlrAb8AoN871fsA did-4185038336292753882" href="http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/africa/algerian-hostage-crisis-erupts-reports-of-six-hostages-killed-by-helicopter-attack-8455045.html" id="MAE4AkgAUABgAmoCdXM" target="_blank"><span class="titletext">Algerian hostage crisis erupts: reports of 35 hostages killed by helicopter attack</span></a></div> <table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="al-attribution single-line-height"><tbody><tr><td class="al-attribution-cell source-cell"> <span class="al-attribution-source">The Independent</span></td> <td class="al-attribution-cell timestamp-cell"> <span class="dash-separator"> - </span><span class="al-attribution-timestamp">‎11 minutes ago‎</span></td> <td class="al-attribution-cell sharebar-cell"> <table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="share-bar-table yesscript" id=":46"><tbody><tr><td class="share-bar-cell sharebox-cell">  </td> <td class="share-bar-cell">  </td> <td class="share-bar-cell"> <p> </p> </td> </tr></tbody></table></td> </tr></tbody></table></div> </div> <div class="lead-article-section"> <div class="al al-with-snippet" id=":6"> <div class="al-link-wrapper"> <a class="article usg-AFQjCNGzUGvPrq4W0OfBoerubAYIVwuk9A sig2-8kOAbb0o3OfZrAgiaHdllQ did--7409116167197036304" href="http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/01/17/us-sahara-crisis-idUSBRE90F1JJ20130117" id="MAE4AkgAUABgAmoCdXM" target="_blank"><span class="titletext">Algeria government says had to storm plant, action continues</span></a></div> <div class="al-attribution-wrapper"> <table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="al-attribution single-line-height"><tbody><tr><td class="al-attribution-cell source-cell"> <span class="al-attribution-source">Reuters</span></td> <td class="al-attribution-cell timestamp-cell"> <span class="dash-separator"> - </span><span class="al-attribution-timestamp">‎21 minutes ago‎</span></td> <td class="al-attribution-cell sharebar-cell"> <table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="share-bar-table yesscript" id=":3v"><tbody><tr><td class="share-bar-cell sharebox-cell">  </td> <td class="share-bar-cell">  </td> <td class="share-bar-cell">  </td> </tr></tbody></table></td> </tr></tbody></table></div> <div class="al-snippet-text"> ALGIERS | Thu Jan 17, 2013 2:32pm EST. ALGIERS (Reuters) - Algeria's government spokesman confirmed some hostages were killed in a continuing military operation at a desert gas plant on Thursday but said troops had been forced to act to free them due <b>...</b></div> </div> </div> <p> </p> </div></div></div> Thu, 17 Jan 2013 19:56:07 +0000 artappraiser comment 173518 at http://dagblog.com The New York Times piece has http://dagblog.com/comment/173457#comment-173457 <a id="comment-173457"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/link/militants-seize-americans-and-other-hostages-algeria-related-mali-operation-16029">Militants Seize Americans and Other Hostages in Algeria (related to Mali operation)</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>The New York Times piece has been updated since I posted it and filled out with some more information, including a more nuanced depiction of the Algerian public support situation, like these two paragraphs:</p> <blockquote> <p itemprop="articleBody">The attackers seemed particularly incensed that Algeria’s government had permitted the French to use Algerian airspace to fly warplanes and military equipment into Mali, according to their statement, which may explain why they chose Algeria for retaliation. Some Algerian military experts said the Algerian public also was unhappy about the government’s decision.</p> <p itemprop="articleBody">“The setting in motion of a military machine in north Mali was going to have definite repercussions in Algeria,” said Mohamed Chafik Mesbah, a former Algerian Army officer and political scientist reached by telephone in Algiers. “This is only the beginning,” he said. “There are going to be much worse consequences. There will be more attacks.”</p> </blockquote> </div></div></div> Thu, 17 Jan 2013 03:59:11 +0000 artappraiser comment 173457 at http://dagblog.com Interesting on the motive, http://dagblog.com/comment/173434#comment-173434 <a id="comment-173434"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/173433#comment-173433">CNN: Islamists take foreign</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Interesting on the motive, they want the crusaders out of Mali but they want crusaders to go into Syria?</p> <blockquote> <p class="cnn_storypgraphtxt cnn_storypgraph13">A Mauritanian news agency, Al Akhbar, said the attackers demanded in a news release an end to "brutal aggression on our people in Mali."</p> <p class="cnn_storypgraphtxt cnn_storypgraph14">It cited "blatant intervention of the French crusader forces in Mali" and accused the world of having left Syria's people "groaning under the pressure of the butcher" President Bashar al-Assad.</p> <p class="cnn_storypgraphtxt cnn_storypgraph15">The news release said they chose Algeria because the country's president, Abdelaziz Bouteflika, allowed French military forces to use Algerian air space in attacking Mali.</p> <p class="cnn_storypgraphtxt cnn_storypgraph16">It put the number of hostages at "more than 40," including seven Americans, two French, two British and a number of other Europeans.</p> <p class="cnn_storypgraphtxt cnn_storypgraph17">An Islamist group claiming responsibility for the attack told the Mauritanian News Agency and Sahara Media that 41 "Westerners including seven Americans, (as well as) French, British and Japanese citizens have been taken hostage."</p> </blockquote> </div></div></div> Wed, 16 Jan 2013 23:13:59 +0000 artappraiser comment 173434 at http://dagblog.com CNN: Islamists take foreign http://dagblog.com/comment/173433#comment-173433 <a id="comment-173433"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/link/militants-seize-americans-and-other-hostages-algeria-related-mali-operation-16029">Militants Seize Americans and Other Hostages in Algeria (related to Mali operation)</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>CNN:</p> <p><a href="http://www.cnn.com/2013/01/16/world/africa/algeria-attack/index.html?hpt=hp_t1">Islamists take foreign hostages in attack on Algerian oil field</a><br /> By Tom Watkins, Laura Smith-Spark and Yousuf Basil, <em>CNN</em><br /> updated 5:49 PM EST, Wed January 16, 2013</p> <p>They are also covering the story right now on TV.<br />  </p> </div></div></div> Wed, 16 Jan 2013 23:07:27 +0000 artappraiser comment 173433 at http://dagblog.com Some clarification for those http://dagblog.com/comment/173431#comment-173431 <a id="comment-173431"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/link/militants-seize-americans-and-other-hostages-algeria-related-mali-operation-16029">Militants Seize Americans and Other Hostages in Algeria (related to Mali operation)</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Some clarification for those who haven't been following the news about the Mali operation.</p> <p>The Algerian government is 100% supportive of the Mali operation, see my news thread <a href="http://dagblog.com/link/french-troops-arrive-mali-stem-rebel-advance-15989#comment-173209">here</a>; the long-deteriorating situation has been a huge problem for them. The French are using Algeria as an air base for the attacks.</p> <p>Algerian al-Qaeda sympathizers are part of the motley crew that make up the group that France is attacking, you can read about that in articles on my thread<a href="http://dagblog.com/link/french-troops-arrive-mali-stem-rebel-advance-15989#comment-173335"> here</a>, but the <a href="http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Africa/2013/0115/How-the-French-got-to-airstrikes-in-Mali-A-briefing-from-Bamako?nav=614225-csm_article-editorsPicks"><em>Christian Science Monitor</em> piece</a> I cite there is the best for summing it up succinctly.</p> <p>As the<em> Monitor</em> piece explains, the takeover of Northern Mali includes a coalition of</p> <p><em>three basic groups: Al Qaeda in the Islamic Maghreb (AQIM), Ansar Dine (Defenders of the Faith) and the Movement for Unity and Jihad in West Africa (MUJWA)</em></p> <p>and it is the first  group on their list that includes Algerians:</p> <p><em>AQIM has operated in the north for at least a decade but got its blessing from Osama bin Ladin in 2006. It is mostly made up of Algerians and Mauritanians. Formerly the Group Salafist for Preaching and Combat (GSPC), it was initially made up of hardcore remnants from Algerian civil war. AQIM is thought to be well financed out of kidnapping ransoms and control of smuggling corridors, including cocaine.</em></p> <p>The US hasn't really participated yet except at the UN Security Council; we've promised minor support but hadn't really worked out what exactly and how yet, see "Who Is Doing What?" <a href="http://dagblog.com/link/french-troops-arrive-mali-stem-rebel-advance-15989#comment-173368">here</a> and other news items on that thread.. (We <em>did</em> recently try to assist France with their Somalia hostage situation and <a href="http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/01/14/16505772-obama-us-forces-helped-france-in-failed-somalia-rescue-attempt">Obama recently reported that publicly to Congress because it is a requirement of the WPA.</a> That situation was regarding yet another Al Qaeda-linked group in Africa, Al Shabab.)</p> </div></div></div> Wed, 16 Jan 2013 23:04:20 +0000 artappraiser comment 173431 at http://dagblog.com