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This article is from Sept.

artappraiser — Mon, 28 Jan 2013 10:04:48 +0000

In reply to Hijackers visited home in Florida gated community before Saudi family left in a hurry

This article is from Sept. 2011. In it, it says Bob Graham is upset this information wasn't reported to the 9/11 Commission. I did quick searches for "Abdulazzi al-Hiijjii" and "Senator Bob Graham" and pretty immediately found this from a year later:

Former U.S. Sen. Bob Graham: Reopen inquiry into 9/11 attacks
By Juan Ortega, The Sun Sentinel, Sept. 11, 2012

[.....] Former U.S. Sen. Bob Graham, at left, spoke to an audience Tuesday night during "Unanswered Questions of 9/11: A Conversation With Bob Graham." It was a seminar presented at the Museum of Art Fort Lauderdale by Broward Bulldog, an independent nonprofit online newspaper, and Boardroom Communications Inc., a marketing and public relations firm. [.....]

"I think it's very important that this information about Sarasota and Delray Beach and other places where the hijackers would have benefited from a support network be made available," Graham said.

The event, titled "Unanswered Questions of 9/11: A Conversation With Bob Graham," was presented at the Museum of Art Fort Lauderdale by Broward Bulldog, an independent nonprofit online newspaper, and Boardroom Communications Inc., a marketing and public relations firm. [.....]

During the past year, Broward Bulldog has been reporting about how Congress and the 9/11 Commission were left unaware of an FBI inquiry that scrutinized ties between the 9/11 hijackers and the Saudi family in Sarasota, who reportedly left the country just before the attacks.

Broward Bulldog last week filed a lawsuit demanding the release of FBI records that allegedly link the Sarasota family to the terrorists. The FBI has replied it found no credible evidence connecting the family and the 9/11 hijackers, according to Broward Bulldog editor Dan Christensen. But the FBI has rebuffed specific requests by several newspapers to provide details in support of its assertion, Christensen said.

The lawsuit, which names the FBI and U.S. Department of Justice as defendants, is pending in federal court in Fort Lauderdale. [.....]

If you follow this link there Broward Bulldog last week filed a lawsuit (note:that means it took them a year from the story you posted to file the lawsuit,)

you get these links:

Read our FOIA complaint

The Government’s Motion to Dismiss

Our Response in Opposition to the Motion to Dismiss the Complaint

The Government’s Reply to our Memorandum in Opposition to Dismissal

I admit I haven't read those, because I'm not all that interested, and they have a lot of legal mumbo jumbo I would have to spend of time translating and I get a headache when I have to do that. I look at it big picture and I honestly can't see much of anything much coming out of this piece of data that might alter the big narrative of history.

But if you chose to do so, I would say keep in mind this is the Obama administration fighting this FOIA, not the Bush administration.

And I couldn't easily find any more complaints from Senator Graham about all this. Seems to me if it were something of earth shaking potential that would change the whole narrative, he would have been screaming bloody murder a year ago. And seems to me it's more like he would just like to see this info. included in public addenda to the 9/11 Commission Report for reasons of comprehensiveness and historians.

Instead of spending time looking at these FOIA case docs, I chose to do a quick re-perusal of Chapter 7 of the 9/11 Report where the hijackers movements in the US before 9/11 are reported:

http://govinfo.library.unt.edu/911/report/911Report_Ch7.htm

That's a summary of an awful lot of people being investigated for coming in contract with the hijackers and perhaps supporting them. One that jumped out at me that I probably didn't recognize the first time I read it was Imam "Anwar Aulaqi" (often spelled Anwar Awlaki or Anwar Al-Awlaki) being interrogated about meeting with Hazmi and/or Hanjour in San Diego and Virginia. We now know what the Obama administration feels (felt?) about him (reminder: an American citizen, not a Saudi.) I find that a way more interesting thing to pursue than the tale of a Saudi family near Sarasota that might easily have gotten a tip from Atta or Shehhi to skidaddle before 9/11.

But anyone really interested should be able to contact The Broward Bulldog and/or Bob Graham to get a wassup. It's not like they are persecuted whistleblowers who can't talk and there isn't an internet.

My only comment ever was that

PeraclesPlease — Thu, 24 Jan 2013 07:28:53 +0000

In reply to There. Better? It's true that

My only comment ever was that I didn't think the hijackers visited after they left. Yes, it's very strange how abruptly they left, and could easily suggest close ties with the upcoming attack and something gone wrong. And it's sad that we'll never know why because for some reason we didn't trace things like this to the end. We still don't even know who sent the post-9/11 anthrax or why.

Note, Salon just apologized for letting someone call 9/11 a "conspiracy". But what is it when at least 20 people get together to plan a bunch of hijackings behind the scenes? The effect is chilling - we can't ask further questions, because then we're conspiracy buffs. No air transport crew or other insiders in on the hijacks, getting those box cutters on board (if that was all)? Shhhh.... don't ask.

There. Better? It's true that

erica20 — Thu, 24 Jan 2013 00:47:14 +0000

In reply to Right, but does it matter

There. Better? It's true that it takes the oddball hook out of the story, but still possibly significant in that the family did leave rather abrubtly.

Right, but does it matter

erica20 — Thu, 24 Jan 2013 00:36:56 +0000

In reply to These visits were before the

Right, but does it matter whether they visited before or after the family left? I think the point is that there was a connection between them and that the family left in a hurry.

I will amend my post, though, to reflect whatever is accurate. Thanks.

These visits were before the

PeraclesPlease — Wed, 23 Jan 2013 23:59:03 +0000

In reply to "People who arrived by car

These visits were before the couple left the house, quite before 9/11.

And it ruins the story, Saudi couple leaves house with 3 new vehicles & orange juice on the table - while old friends drop by for weeks after?

"People who arrived by car

erica20 — Wed, 23 Jan 2013 22:04:03 +0000

In reply to Still don't see where it says

"People who arrived by car had to give their names and the home’s address they were visiting. Gate staff would sometimes ask to see a driver’s license and note the name, said Berberich.

LICENSE PLATES PHOTOGRAPHED

More importantly, he added, the license plates of cars pulling through the gate were photographed.

Atta is known to have used variations of his name, but the license plate of the car he owned was on record.

The vehicle and name information on Atta and Jarrah fit that of drivers entering Prestancia on their way to visit the home at 4224 Escondito Circle, said Berberich and the counterterrorism officer."

Still don't see where it says

PeraclesPlease — Wed, 23 Jan 2013 21:40:53 +0000

In reply to The comments on the story are

Still don't see where it says hijackers visited the house. It says there were calls to the hijackers before they abandoned the house...

The comments on the story are

erica20 — Wed, 23 Jan 2013 17:31:00 +0000

In reply to Hijackers visited home in Florida gated community before Saudi family left in a hurry

The comments on the story are even better than the story itself. I love the one from the guy who worked at Pier 1 and noticed the Australian bodyguard!