dagblog - Comments for "Did the Wild West Have More Gun Control Than We Do Today? " http://dagblog.com/link/did-wild-west-have-more-gun-control-we-do-today-16151 Comments for "Did the Wild West Have More Gun Control Than We Do Today? " en How the Greeks Viewed http://dagblog.com/comment/174611#comment-174611 <a id="comment-174611"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/link/did-wild-west-have-more-gun-control-we-do-today-16151">Did the Wild West Have More Gun Control Than We Do Today? </a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><blockquote> <p><a href="http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/culture/2013/02/how-the-greeks-viewed-weapons.html">How the Greeks Viewed Weapons</a><br /> By Melissa Lane, <em>Culture Desk</em> @ newyorker.com, February 1, 2013</p> <p>[...] The pioneers of citizen armies were also pioneers of withdrawing weapons from the places of civilized life. The ancient Greek armies were manned exclusively by citizens who brought their own weapons into battle. Getting to serve in an élite combat unit required being wealthy enough to afford to buy one’s own armor. It was this vision of citizen militias, further developed by the Romans, that went on to inspire the English revolutionaries of the seventeenth century and the American revolutionaries of the eighteenth—so shaping the values expressed in the Second Amendment.</p> <p>Nevertheless, when one early-nineteenth-century American reflected on what the new American Republic could learn from the ancient Greeks, he drew attention to another feature that was widespread in their politics: refraining from carrying weapons in public spaces. In some cities, this was a matter of custom, in others it was a matter of law. Citizens carried their weapons abroad when serving in the military for public defense. But, even in these cities, it was believed that carrying weapons at home would be tantamount to letting weapons, not laws, rule.</p> <p>This point is emphasized in a study of ancient-Greek laws attributed to Benjamin Franklin, though apparently composed by the founding editor of the <i>Western Minerva</i>, who published it in 1820. The laws, the author insisted, “apply with peculiar energy and propriety to the circumstances of the United States.” Number fifteen in this collection of a hundred “principles of political wisdom,” drawn from the school of Pythagoras, legislators for Greek settlements on the Italian mainland, was this: “Let the laws rule alone. When weapons rule, they kill the law.”</p> <p>This is the opposite of the view attributed to the Founding Fathers by the N.R.A.’s chief executive, Wayne LaPierre, in 2009, when he said that “our founding fathers understood that the guys with the guns make the rules.” On the contrary, letting the guys with weapons make the rules of ordinary life was the opposite of the classical practices that inspired the American founders. [.....]</p> </blockquote> </div></div></div> Wed, 13 Feb 2013 02:18:37 +0000 artappraiser comment 174611 at http://dagblog.com