dagblog - Comments for "Will the Real Bob Woodward Please Sit Down?" http://dagblog.com/media/will-real-bob-woodward-please-sit-down-16275 Comments for "Will the Real Bob Woodward Please Sit Down?" en Republicans are hyping the http://dagblog.com/comment/178128#comment-178128 <a id="comment-178128"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/media/will-real-bob-woodward-please-sit-down-16275">Will the Real Bob Woodward Please Sit Down?</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><blockquote> <p>Republicans are hyping the flap over Benghazi talking points by calling it “worse than Watergate,” a false narrative that Bob Woodward has helped along by ignoring new evidence connecting Richard Nixon’s sabotage of Vietnam War peace talks in 1968 to his political spying in 1971-72, writes Robert Parry.</p> </blockquote> <p><a href="http://consortiumnews.com/2013/05/20/does-woodward-know-watergate/">http://consortiumnews.com/2013/05/20/does-woodward-know-watergate/</a></p> </div></div></div> Tue, 21 May 2013 02:05:58 +0000 A Guy Called LULU comment 178128 at http://dagblog.com Yes, they hated Al Gore too, http://dagblog.com/comment/175179#comment-175179 <a id="comment-175179"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/175173#comment-175173">Newsbusters of all places</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Yes, they hated Al Gore too, and loved George Bush, and Miss Manners-like squeamishness when Beltway etiquette isn't followed.</p> <p>Frat boys with a pen, gotta love it. Of course by being media whores, they brought White House contempt to themselves. Meanwhile we still have little idea what government is doing.</p> </div></div></div> Mon, 04 Mar 2013 09:25:21 +0000 Anonymous PP comment 175179 at http://dagblog.com Newsbusters of all places http://dagblog.com/comment/175173#comment-175173 <a id="comment-175173"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/media/will-real-bob-woodward-please-sit-down-16275">Will the Real Bob Woodward Please Sit Down?</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p><a href="http://NBC's Gregory: Obama Doesn't Like Washington Press Corps, Feeling is 'Mutual' By Kyle Drennen | March 01, 2013 | 17:28 48 17 Reddit0 1 &#9;A A Kyle Drennen's picture Reacting to the contentious exchange between the Obama White House and the Washington Post's Bob Woodward, on Friday's NBC Today, Meet the Press moderator David Gregory saw the conflict as part of a &quot;larger issue&quot;: &quot;...the President does not particularly like the Washington press corps. And I think that feeling is mutual in a lot of respects....there's not a great relationship between that Washington establishment and the President.&quot; [Listen to the audio or watch the video after the jump] Gregory began by explaining: &quot;All administrations push back hard, especially when they're dealing with a high-octane reporter and a top-notch reporter like Bob Woodward....and that's not a tension that's bad, okay? People should want that out of a press corps...&quot; He then sympathized with White House: &quot;...a lot of the President's advisers are frustrated that they feel they don't get the credit they deserve for the willingness to compromise they see on the President's end, that they do not see reciprocated on the part of Republicans.&quot; That attitude seemed reflected in this testy exchange during a presidential press conference on the budget sequester later in the day: JULIE PACE [ASSOCIATED PRESS]: How much responsibility do you feel like you bear for these cuts taking effect? And is the only way to offset them at this point for Republicans to bend on revenue, or do you see any alternatives?...It sounds like you're saying that this is a Republican problem and not one that you bear any responsibility for. BARACK OBAMA: Well, Julie, give me an example of what I might do. PACE: I'm just trying to clarify your statement. OBAMA: Well, no, but I'm trying to clarify the question. What I'm suggesting is, I've put forward a plan that calls for serious spending cuts, serious entitlement reforms, goes right at the problem that is at the heart of our long-term deficit problem. I've offered negotiations around that kind of balanced approach. And so far, we've gotten rebuffed because what Speaker Boehner and the Republicans have said is, we cannot do any revenue, we can't do a dime's worth of revenue. So what more do you think I should do? Okay, I just wanted to clarify. [Pace doesn't respond. Laughter in room] Because if people have a suggestion, I'm happy to – this is a room full of smart folks. On Today, Gregory outlined the President's strategy of blaming the GOP for the sequester: The President is going to make his case that the Republicans are being unreasonable, that they ought to consider revenues as part of tax reform and actually apply those to the deficit. They're not going to do that. You know, certainly there'll be effects of this. If you work for the military, you could be furloughed. If you have a child who's in Head Start, some 70,000 get kicked out of Head Start. But the truth is that this will be a rolling set of impacts that won't really be evident until over the next 30 days and not everybody will be affected. I think there's going to be a certain amount of waiting to see how big the political outcry becomes before either side moves. Story Continues Below Ad ↓ Here is a full transcript of the March 1 segment: 7:09AM ET NATALIE MORALES: Well, David Gregory is the moderator of Meet the Press. Good morning to you, David. DAVID GREGORY: Hey, Natalie. How are you? MORALES: I'm great. Let's start with a little bit of your reaction to what you just heard from Bob Woodward first, not dealing with the sequester issue just yet, but rather on this issue of push-back from the White House and from other administrations. I imagine over the years in the White House press corps you've had your share of nasty emails and phone calls. [ON-SCREEN HEADLINE: Woodward vs. White House; &quot;Regret,&quot; Sorting Out the War of Words on Sequester] GREGORY: Right. Yes, I've heard some nasty stuff, and Bob Woodward has heard a lot of nasty stuff that goes beyond this, for sure, over his forty years. Look, a couple of things. Obviously, Bob, in his reporting, has staked out some very clear ground here, where he's challenging the administration. The administration doesn't like it and you've seen this push-back. All administrations push back hard, especially when they're dealing with a high-octane reporter and a top-notch reporter like Bob Woodward. So that's just a reality in Washington and that's not a tension that's bad, okay? People should want that out of a press corps, particularly covering the White House at any particular level. I think there's a larger issue here, too, and that is that the President does not particularly like the Washington press corps. And I think that feeling is mutual in a lot of respects. And so, there's not a great relationship between that Washington establishment and the President. That, too, by the way, is not unprecedented. So I think some of these tensions play out, particularly because, I've seen this first hand, the President – a lot of the President's advisers are frustrated that they feel they don't get the credit they deserve for the willingness to compromise they see on the President's end, that they do not see reciprocated on the part of Republicans. MORALES: Right. Now to the sequester issue. And it appears now it's all but inevitable, at 11:59 p.m. tonight, those cuts are going to go into effect. What happens next? Because as we heard, House Speaker John Boehner yesterday, say yesterday, you know, it's now closed. It's an issue that's now closed. It's up to the Senate. We saw the Senate absolutely did nothing yesterday with this. They managed to fail on two competing bills. So what happens now? [ON-SCREEN HEADLINE: Time's Up; Will Washington Reach A Budget Compromise?] GREGORY: Well, nothing immediately. And that's a key point. They're going to meet today at the White House, as you heard Matt discussing with Bob Woodward, congressional leaders and the President. Nothing is going to come of this meeting. The President is going to make his case that the Republicans are being unreasonable, that they ought to consider revenues as part of tax reform and actually apply those to the deficit. They're not going to do that. You know, certainly there'll be effects of this. If you work for the military, you could be furloughed. If you have a child who's in Head Start, some 70,000 get kicked out of Head Start. MORALES: Right. GREGORY: But the truth is that this will be a rolling set of impacts that won't really be evident until over the next 30 days and not everybody will be affected. I think there's going to be a certain amount of waiting to see how big the political outcry becomes before either side moves. MORALES: Alright, David Gregory, thanks. And of course we're going to be seeing you on Sunday on Meet the Press and I know you have House Speaker John Boehner on as your guest. Thanks, David. GREGORY: Thanks, Natalie. Now here's Matt. MATT LAUER: And that should be a fascinating interview. About the Author Kyle Drennen is a news analyst at the Media Research Center. Click here to follow Kyle Drennen on Twitter. Read more: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/kyle-drennen/2013/03/01/nbcs-gregory-obama-doesnt-washington-press-corps-feeling-mutual#ixzz2MXqoSFES">Newsbusters</a> of all places reports David Gregory of NBC noting that the Washington Press Corps does not like the White House and the feeling is mutual. The statement was made on Friday's NBC "Today" show.</p> </div></div></div> Mon, 04 Mar 2013 05:17:28 +0000 rmrd0000 comment 175173 at http://dagblog.com Murrow established his http://dagblog.com/comment/175154#comment-175154 <a id="comment-175154"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/175151#comment-175151">The problem is that if a</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Murrow established his reputation before he called out McCarthy. That's why his condemnation had such impact. There were plenty of vocal McCarthy critics before Murrow spoke up. The McCarthyites called them communist sympathizers of course. But they couldn't make that stick on Murrow.</p> <p> </p> </div></div></div> Sun, 03 Mar 2013 16:48:00 +0000 Michael Wolraich comment 175154 at http://dagblog.com Bob Woodward always worked on http://dagblog.com/comment/175153#comment-175153 <a id="comment-175153"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/media/will-real-bob-woodward-please-sit-down-16275">Will the Real Bob Woodward Please Sit Down?</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Bob Woodward always worked on leaks dropped in his lap. Whether those leaks were true never much concerned him, nor Washington. Fame has created an institution, and that institution must be supported and revered.</p> <p>Then again, reporters were always amoral hacks, like politicians. "Fartblossom" was the most sincere descriptor, coming in the "he who smelt it dealt it" vein. Why'd we buy into the adoration? The targeted top secret leaks to Woodward from the BushHouse was a horrid precedent - now the White House thumbs its nose at Congress while leaking what it wants to whom it wants.</p> </div></div></div> Sun, 03 Mar 2013 12:43:04 +0000 Anonymous PP comment 175153 at http://dagblog.com The problem is that if a http://dagblog.com/comment/175151#comment-175151 <a id="comment-175151"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/175148#comment-175148">I don&#039;t think you have to be</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>The problem is that if a journalist truly transcended partisan politics they'd have to call out most of the republican party like Murrow called out McCarthy. And then they'd be called left wing radicals.</p> <p>The truly nonpartisan story now is about a republican party that's gotten so extreme and crazy.</p> <p>Its a story of a democratic president that passes a health care bill designed by the conservative Heritage Foundation, supported by moderate republicans 20 years ago, and put into law by a republican governor. Its  a story of a president that bent over backwards and compromised away many democrat supported ideas in a fruitless attempt to get a single republican vote on that republican designed health care bill. Then got called a socialist for passing it.</p> <p>The nonpartisan story is a democratic president offering significant cuts in SS and medicare  and republicans that would not compromise a nickel in revenue in return.</p> <p>How can an honest nonpartisan journalist tell the story of what's happening now without sounding like a left wing partisan.</p> <p> </p> </div></div></div> Sun, 03 Mar 2013 04:42:40 +0000 ocean-kat comment 175151 at http://dagblog.com I don't think you have to be http://dagblog.com/comment/175148#comment-175148 <a id="comment-175148"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/175128#comment-175128">You&#039;re right, Michael. I</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>I don't think you have to be investigative journalist to be a "hero" journalist. Cronkite and Murrow come to mind. But I do think you have to transcend partisan politics, which Maddow does not. You have to win the respect of a broad swath of the country.</p> <p>That's the part that may be extremely difficult now. With the country so divided, it's hard to achieve success without identifying with one side or the other.</p> </div></div></div> Sat, 02 Mar 2013 22:04:29 +0000 Michael Wolraich comment 175148 at http://dagblog.com Maybe he will finally retire. http://dagblog.com/comment/175144#comment-175144 <a id="comment-175144"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/175141#comment-175141">Kathleen Parker wrote a piece</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Maybe he will finally retire.  I have been hitting the mute button for years when he is on TV.</p> <p>My grandson asked me about him last night.  I told him that it was about time that journalist take a close look at the decline in the quality of their product.  This could be a sign that making up stuff to write about to pass as facts will be held accountable.  Journalist are starting to catch on that the country's mood is changing and people's interest in tabloid writing is waning.  They want honest facts on things that really matter and the pressure is on for journalism to clean it's self up.</p> </div></div></div> Sat, 02 Mar 2013 19:11:04 +0000 trkingmomoe comment 175144 at http://dagblog.com Kathleen Parker wrote a piece http://dagblog.com/comment/175141#comment-175141 <a id="comment-175141"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/media/will-real-bob-woodward-please-sit-down-16275">Will the Real Bob Woodward Please Sit Down?</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Kathleen Parker wrote a piece in WaPo yesterday called <a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/kathleen-parker-the-obama-white-house-threat-to-bob-woodward-matters/2013/03/01/f5d36d5e-82b3-11e2-b99e-6baf4ebe42df_story.html">"Why the 'threat' on Bob Woodward really matters"</a>.  Apparently one must never, ever cause Bob Woodward any discomfort:</p> <blockquote> <p>Though the tone was conciliatory and Sperling apologized for raising his voice, <strong>the message nonetheless caused Woodward to bristle</strong>.  Again, Woodward’s kneecaps are probably safe, <strong>but the challenge to his facts, and therefore to his character, was unusual, given Woodward’s stature.</strong></p> </blockquote> <p>And besides that,</p> <blockquote> <p>Woodward, almost 70, is Washington’s Reporter Emeritus. His facts stand up to scrutiny. His motivations withstand the test of objectivity. Sperling obviously assumed that Woodward wouldn’t take offense at the suggestion that he not only was wrong but was also endangering his valuable proximity to power.</p> <p>He assumed, in other words, that Woodward would not do his job. This was an oversight.</p> </blockquote> <p>The comments are 3,000 and counting, almost all against Parker.  But that won't stop her or any of the others in thrall of Bob.  The legend will live on.</p> </div></div></div> Sat, 02 Mar 2013 16:10:00 +0000 Ramona comment 175141 at http://dagblog.com I agree with Anonymous TMac. http://dagblog.com/comment/175140#comment-175140 <a id="comment-175140"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/175137#comment-175137">How is it that Bob Woodward</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>I agree with Anonymous TMac.  I have nothing of substance to add, other than to say that I really enjoyed your blog.  I also enjoyed Woodward squirming on Morning Joe the other day, claiming he never said he felt threatened, right after they played the clip of him saying he felt threatened.  What a maroon.  hahahahaha. </p> </div></div></div> Sat, 02 Mar 2013 14:43:07 +0000 MrSmith1 comment 175140 at http://dagblog.com