dagblog - Comments for "Psychiatrist warned James Holmes (of Aurora theater shooting) was a danger to the public" http://dagblog.com/link/psychiatrist-warned-james-holmes-was-dangerous-16483 Comments for "Psychiatrist warned James Holmes (of Aurora theater shooting) was a danger to the public" en Whatever. It's not like it's http://dagblog.com/comment/176562#comment-176562 <a id="comment-176562"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/176560#comment-176560">They also revealed those pill</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Whatever. It's not like it's unknown for the seriously mentally ill to like to self-medicate into further oblivion. But in this case, it certainly looks like it's not going to turn out that it was his psychiatrist's prescribed treatment plan causing him to murder.</p> <p>Here's a former FBI profiler who doesn't think the new evidence shows someone drugging himself blotto, despite the mind alterers in his apartment:</p> <blockquote> <p><a href="http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/evidence-found-james-holmes-apartment-says-him-192824689.html">What evidence found in James Holmes’ apartment says about him</a><br /> By Jason Sickles, <em>Yahoo, The Lookout </em>– Fri, Apr 5, 2013</p> <p>Chemical formulas written on index cards.</p> <p>More than 1,700 rounds of ammunition.</p> <p>Tactical gear.</p> <p>While accused killer James Holmes’ attorneys have said he's mentally ill, the items investigators recovered from his apartment send a strong signal that he was not mentally debilitated, a former FBI profiler tells Yahoo News.</p> <p>“Let’s put the labels aside and look at the behavior,” <a href="http://maryellenotoole.com/">says Mary Ellen O'Toole</a>, who worked for 15 years in the bureau's Behavioral Analysis Unit where she studied psychopaths and helped capture killers.</p> <p id="yui_3_8_1_20_1365486593718_235">At Yahoo News’ request, O'Toole—who retired in 2009 and has no direct connection to the case—reviewed 17 pages of items taken from Holmes’ apartment.</p> <p>“There were items he needed to carry out his game plan,” O’Toole said of the evidence. “They show the thinking and the logic and the strategy.”</p> <p>Bomb materials, supply lists, gun-cleaning tools all point to Holmes being in touch with reality, she said.</p> <p>“The amount of planning and thoughtfulness, and money and time that had to go into this is really reinforced here,” she added. “You can’t put together a list like this overnight.”</p> <p>From his bathroom, police recovered Sertraline, an antidepressant, and Clonazepam, which is often used to treat anxiety, bipolar and panic disorders. Over-the-counter allergy, cold and pain medications were found as well.</p> <p>Investigators also removed 50 cans and bottles of beer, whiskey and rum. But finding the pills and booze doesn’t prove that Holmes was consuming them or consuming them as prescribed, O’Toole said.</p> <p>“If you’re a bombmaker, you don’t want to think fuzzy,” she said. “He couldn’t afford to make a mistake.” [.....]</p> </blockquote> <p>Of course, the law enforcement world's idea of what constitutes mental illness differs significantly from mine and many others. The legal consequences affect how they think and the way they say things, even when, like here, they are not involved in the case. It's like as long as a person knows they're doing something bad, they can't be mentally ill. To pun, do they know how insane their own reasoning sounds to some of us?</p> </div></div></div> Tue, 09 Apr 2013 06:02:51 +0000 artappraiser comment 176562 at http://dagblog.com They also revealed those pill http://dagblog.com/comment/176560#comment-176560 <a id="comment-176560"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/link/psychiatrist-warned-james-holmes-was-dangerous-16483">Psychiatrist warned James Holmes (of Aurora theater shooting) was a danger to the public</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>They also revealed those pill bottles were Zoloft and some anti-anxiety drugs, which he must have also been taking along with the Vicodin he had fatal doses of in his system. (Some comments here said maybe it was because he "didn't take his meds" - he wasn't taking, say, Seroquel or something to treat a legitimate mental illness.) This guy was high as hell during the entire ordeal.</p> </div></div></div> Tue, 09 Apr 2013 05:43:29 +0000 Orion comment 176560 at http://dagblog.com