dagblog - Comments for "&#039;No Risk of Explosion&#039;-Fertilizer Plant Doc&#039;s" http://dagblog.com/link/no-risk-explosion-fertilizer-plant-docs-16546 Comments for "'No Risk of Explosion'-Fertilizer Plant Doc's" en NH3 (anhydrous ammonia) is http://dagblog.com/comment/176955#comment-176955 <a id="comment-176955"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/link/no-risk-explosion-fertilizer-plant-docs-16546">&#039;No Risk of Explosion&#039;-Fertilizer Plant Doc&#039;s</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>NH3 (anhydrous ammonia) is highly explosive.  It has a exothermic reaction with water.  Exothermic means it goes boom.  It is stored under pressure in liquid form and gas can leak.  The gas causes burns and will damage lungs which will kill you.  I was a volunteer fireman for 6 years in a small department in North West Florida.  We were trained for this because there was a fertilizer plant in the next county.  NH3 was shipped through our district.  We had a foam truck that was outfitted with brass tools.  Brass tools don't cause sparks.  We also knew when to evacuate everybody including ourselves.  NH3 in a pressure tank will cook off under certain conditions.   We had our share of tank truck accidents.   I read last year during the Texas drought that most of the fire departments that was fighting all the fires were volunteer units.  The state of Texas had cut back so much in funds for these departments that they didn't have the equipment or the training needed for their communities.  Many of the volunteers had to buy their own safety equipment. They bought old used fire trucks or converted old military 2 1/2 ton trucks into woods trucks.  Texas has more problems then dumb untrained and under equipped fire fighters, the state itself needs too take a good look at their lack of oversight and investment.  Why wasn't that tank farm moved away from a residential area.  You figure out how big of a explosion the chemicals make or how big a gas cloud can be released and then you know how long to make the drive way to the plant.  West Fertilizer should have been out in the north forty with the cattle.</p> </div></div></div> Sat, 20 Apr 2013 12:27:27 +0000 trkingmomoe comment 176955 at http://dagblog.com West Fertilizer is what http://dagblog.com/comment/176950#comment-176950 <a id="comment-176950"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/176924#comment-176924">An entire town was</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>West Fertilizer is what happens when an uneducated public, un-unionized workers and a greedy safety averse dumb business owner meets anything goes unregulated local and state government. It's freedom from job killing regulations. Randian style.</p> <p>Turns out the plant also had <a href="http://openchannel.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/04/19/17818046-texas-fertilizer-plant-also-stored-explosive-chemical-used-in-oklahoma-city-bomb?lite">270 TONS </a>of ammonium nitrate, the bomb stuff from Ok. City/McVeigh.</p> </div></div></div> Sat, 20 Apr 2013 04:03:28 +0000 NCD comment 176950 at http://dagblog.com An entire town was http://dagblog.com/comment/176924#comment-176924 <a id="comment-176924"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/link/no-risk-explosion-fertilizer-plant-docs-16546">&#039;No Risk of Explosion&#039;-Fertilizer Plant Doc&#039;s</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>An entire town was destroyed.</p> <p>Fifteen or more dead and they are still counting.</p> <p>I just reviewed the photos at Slate:</p> <p><a href="http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/photography/2013/04/west_texas_factory_explosion_and_memorial_photos.html">http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/photography/2013/04/west_texas_factory_explosion_and_memorial_photos.html</a></p> </div></div></div> Fri, 19 Apr 2013 18:52:18 +0000 Richard Day comment 176924 at http://dagblog.com