dagblog - Comments for "After Pledging Support To Palestine, China Pledges Support To Israel" http://dagblog.com/link/after-pledging-support-palestine-china-pledges-support-israel-16667 Comments for "After Pledging Support To Palestine, China Pledges Support To Israel" en I don't think you can make http://dagblog.com/comment/177731#comment-177731 <a id="comment-177731"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/177726#comment-177726">But I don&#039;t think he would</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>I don't think you can make such sweeping conclusions based on one address. I haven't read much on Washington's views on tariffs but I do know he signed the first tariff bill on imported goods both to fund the federal government and to protect American industries. I'm not such an expert on American history to know all the details of every bill over 200 years ago so its possible he wasn't a advocate, but he did sign it so its also possible he was in favor of the bill. In fact tariffs on imported goods were the main source of revenue for the federal government until at least the time of Lincoln. So there seems to be a majority agreement over many years with the idea.</p> </div></div></div> Fri, 10 May 2013 21:41:15 +0000 ocean-kat comment 177731 at http://dagblog.com The ability to finance our http://dagblog.com/comment/177730#comment-177730 <a id="comment-177730"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/177726#comment-177726">But I don&#039;t think he would</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>The ability to finance our fledgling government was done through tariffs and duties. George Washington nor any of our founding fathers would have approved of foreign countries undercutting American jobs, undermining the AMERICAN CITIZENS RIGHTS, to demand safe working conditions, TO DEMAND CHILD LABOR LAWS BE ENFORCED,  clean air and water and all of the the other rights  WE THE PEOPLE secure for ourselves ....... TO PROTECT AMERICA FROM FINANCIAL RUIN. Foreign workers could care less,  if American workers have to grovel for a decent wage or any of our other rights and still have enough money to pay taxes for it's own defense.... America was sold out by traitors, who cared only about their own financial gain and not our Nations, overall well being.  ....  thousands of textile mills, closed in America because third world countires treat their citizens like crap and they can undersell, our own manufacturing base.  ....... OUR TAX BASE, destroyed. Our tax base, that puts the ideals of the American working class people, ahead of all others...... America is not a colony to be plundered or forced to accept, living as the rest of the third world countries that are exploited...... We fought a war over slavery and it appears the slave masters have only moved offshore...... Is the only way the American worker can survive, is if they must work as cheap as the other third world country slaves do?......  Screw that. Dump the slave goods, dont let their trade goods undermine our standard of living, or our right to self determination...... To me it's obvious,  the free <strike>traders</strike> traitors would starve us, to force us, to roll back our rights. (NO JOBS)  I'd much rather say to them "comply with our laws or dont even think that our markets are open to you " THATS HOW YOU BRING BACK JOBS.  tell them "WE WILL NO LONGER SUPPORT SLAVERY, EVEN IF THEY CHANGE THE NAME TO FREE TRADE  (CORPORATE SLAVERY) "  It is the same scheme and is designed to do the same as before.  Slave goods are always cheaper. and are meant to undermine a free peoples gains. Slavery is good for corporate profits. DOH! So is free trade; only it isnt so free, it comes with a heavy cost. <strong> What does American trade? They get the work and we get the debt? </strong></p> </div></div></div> Fri, 10 May 2013 21:33:18 +0000 Resistance comment 177730 at http://dagblog.com But I don't think he would http://dagblog.com/comment/177726#comment-177726 <a id="comment-177726"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/177716#comment-177716">We should have listened to</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>But I don't think he would agree with you on tariffs. Clue: a key takeaway from the Farewell Address is that free trade is both the key to a nation's success and to peace among nations and different peoples. Tariffs/trade protectionism is a tax restricting trade, like the taxes that England was trying to impose on the colonists, against which they rebelled. The point I am trying to make here is that the current Chinese method of doing international business is very much simpatico with George's views of how the new nation and the world should operate. Judging from your commenting history, I believe you, on the other hand, think American workers should be protected from Chinese goods. George thought unrestricted trade was the solution, not the problem. That instead of telling other countries what to do or instead of joining into alliances restricting trade or about things, one should trade freely and everything good would flow from the communication and understanding that ensued.</p> </div></div></div> Fri, 10 May 2013 17:59:05 +0000 artappraiser comment 177726 at http://dagblog.com We should have listened to http://dagblog.com/comment/177716#comment-177716 <a id="comment-177716"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/177711#comment-177711">President Xi Jinping and Dr.</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>We should have listened to George Washington, we should reign in the military industrial complex and quit being the policeman of the world; maybe, our nation would have the money, to care for it's people and prevent the enemies from within.</p> </div></div></div> Fri, 10 May 2013 06:55:57 +0000 Resistance comment 177716 at http://dagblog.com Looks like there is http://dagblog.com/comment/177713#comment-177713 <a id="comment-177713"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/link/after-pledging-support-palestine-china-pledges-support-israel-16667">After Pledging Support To Palestine, China Pledges Support To Israel</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Looks like there is definitely something of a "talking points" campaign going on, and and definitely more Western-style than the Mao maxims of ye olden days:</p> <blockquote> <p><a href="http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/china/2013-05/10/c_132372737.htm">Commentary: China, India capable of achieving win-win results, resolving disputes</a></p> <p>by Yang Qingchuan, Xinhuanet, May 10, 2013</p> <p>BEIJING, May 10 (Xinhua) -- Indian Foreign Minister Salman Khurshid's ongoing visit to China reaffirmed the consensus of the two giant neighbors to achieve win-win results and properly handle disputes toward building a new-type relationship between major countries of the world.</p> <p>The trip drew world attention as it took place after a border incident between the two nations, and western media tended to cast China-India ties in the light of "border row" or "strategic rivalry."</p> <p>But the fact is that Khurshid's China tour was planned long before the border spat happened, and is an integral part of the high-level exchanges agreed upon by leaders of the two sides.</p> <p>While we shouldn't pretend that border disputes and historical issues don't exist between the two nations, it is hard to deny that the problems were often solved in a quick fashion as the two-way ties are getting more mature each day.</p> <p>For international observers, being fixated on border spats, which are not rare between neighboring nations, risks missing the grand picture of the overall positive trend of the China-India relationship and the huge opportunities and benefits it could bring to the region and the world [.....]</p> </blockquote> </div></div></div> Fri, 10 May 2013 05:44:53 +0000 artappraiser comment 177713 at http://dagblog.com President Xi Jinping and Dr. http://dagblog.com/comment/177711#comment-177711 <a id="comment-177711"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/177710#comment-177710">Meet Xi Junior Dr. Lucy Chen,</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>President Xi Jinping and Dr. Chen, meet<a href="http://gwpapers.virginia.edu/documents/farewell/transcript.html"> President George Washington</a>:</p> <blockquote> <p>[....] Our detached &amp; distant situation invites and enables us to pursue a different course. If we remain one People, under an efficient government, the period is not far off, when we may defy material injury from external annoyance; when we may take such an attitude as will cause the neutrality we may at any time resolve upon to be scrupulously respected; when belligerent nations, under the impossibility of making acquisitions upon us, will not lightly hazard the giving us provocation; when we may choose peace or War, as our interest guided by justice shall Counsel.</p> <p>Why forego the advantages of so peculiar a situation? Why quit our own to stand upon foreign ground? Why, by interweaving our destiny with that of any part of Europe, entangle our peace and prosperity in the toils of European Ambition, Rivalship, Interest, Humour or Caprice?</p> <p>'Tis our true policy to steer clear of permanent Alliances, with any portion of the foreign World--So far, I mean, as we are now at liberty to do it--for let me not be understood as capable of patronising infidility to existing engagements, (I hold the maxim no less applicable to public than to private affairs, that honesty is always the best policy)--I repeat it therefore, Let those engagements. be observed in their genuine sense. But in my opinion, it is unnecessary and would be unwise to extend them.</p> <p>Taking care always to keep ourselves, by suitable establishments, on a respectably defensive posture, we may safely trust to temporary alliances for extraordinary emergencies.</p> <p>Harmony, liberal intercourse with all nations, are recommended by policy, humanity, and interest. But even <strong>our commercial policy should hold an equal and impartial hand; neither seeking nor granting exclusive favors or preferences; consulting the natural course of things; diffusing and diversifying by gentle means the streams of commerce, but forcing nothing; establishing (with powers so disposed, in order to give trade a stable course, to define the rights of our merchants, and to enable the government to support them) conventional rules of intercourse, the best that present circumstances and mutual opinion will permit, but temporary, and liable to be from time to time abandoned or varied, as experience and circumstances shall dictate</strong>; constantly keeping in view that it is folly in one nation to look for disinterested favors from another; that it must pay with a portion of its independence for whatever it may accept under that character; that, by such acceptance, it may place itself in the condition of having given equivalents for nominal favors, and yet of being reproached with ingratitude for not giving more. There can be no greater error than to expect or calculate upon real favors from nation to nation. It is an illusion, which experience must cure, which a just pride ought to discard. [.....]</p> </blockquote> </div></div></div> Fri, 10 May 2013 04:26:15 +0000 artappraiser comment 177711 at http://dagblog.com Meet Xi Junior Dr. Lucy Chen, http://dagblog.com/comment/177710#comment-177710 <a id="comment-177710"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/link/after-pledging-support-palestine-china-pledges-support-israel-16667">After Pledging Support To Palestine, China Pledges Support To Israel</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Meet<strike> Xi Junior</strike> Dr. Lucy Chen, the Executive Deputy Director of the Institute for Global Health at Peking University in Beijing:</p> <blockquote> <p><a href="http://www.cnn.com/2013/05/09/opinion/china-africa-health/">Why China is getting involved in Africa's health issues</a><br /> By Lucy Chen, Special to <em>CNN</em>, May 9, 2013</p> <p>[....] China and the countries of Africa have much to unite them. We fought to free ourselves from colonialism; we view health as a key building block for economic development; and we are learning to build upon traditional economic development models that have allowed our societies to make progress. Sharing these values and history, we are pioneering a new South-to-South model based on mutual interests and respect.</p> <p class="cnn_storypgraphtxt cnn_storypgraph6">To be sure, there is a long history of China and Africa collaboration on health. In the 1960s, China began sending medical teams to the continent. More recently, China has built hospitals and medical centers in many African countries. China has also provided medical training to African health professionals and is building capacity in other ways, such as providing scholarships to train health experts.</p> <p class="cnn_storypgraphtxt cnn_storypgraph7">Going forward, we all foresee a stronger collaboration. Many African countries could benefit from low-cost, high-quality Chinese-made health products. China has made enormous strides in the manufacture of drugs, vaccines and other health products. It is the world's largest producer of the active ingredients for malaria treatments and antiretroviral drugs against HIV/AIDS.</p> <p class="cnn_storypgraphtxt cnn_storypgraph7">China also makes [.....]</p> </blockquote> </div></div></div> Fri, 10 May 2013 04:10:49 +0000 artappraiser comment 177710 at http://dagblog.com