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The Tea Party was one of the

Resistance — Sun, 26 May 2013 21:02:42 +0000

The Tea Party was one of the most outspoken groups against the bank bailouts. Had the rest of the nation forced the bailout money to go to the people instead, so they could get out of debt. which would have allowed people to have more disposable income, to support a consumer driven economy and would have helped considerably and the economy recover quicker.... Instead we see the results of helping the bankers, at the expense of the people.... The banker class able to borrow money from the Fed window near zero %, and now the banker class sitting on piles of cash, is now pushing the Federal Reserve, to raise interest rates, so the banker class, can take the cash they are sitting on and they can make more money when they do loan it out ..... Forcing the government to live within it's means, allows the private sector/individuals, the leverage it needs, to tell the banker class to "go to hell", just as they told us to do; we can say "you are asking to much, for the use of their money" "go ahead, continue to sit on the cash you accumulated at the expense of the working class, sit on it and see if you can make money, see what happens when you kill the goose, that laid your golden eggs" "You will no longer be able to get the government to borrow so you'll have to deal with the people if you hope to make money by lending." .... Not only does the insatiable, money hungry, Congress try to tax the crap out of the individual taxpayers; all the while giving Corporations tax breaks, along with giving their cohorts the banker class, free money and Wall Street crowd loving inflation, because it drives up the profits, if goods cost more, but wages stagnate. ....But not satisfied with this money making arrangement, these greedy folks and the best government money can buy, allows the government to sells bonds, allowing it to run deficits, which in turn benefits the very groups spoken of earlier, at the expense of the working class... They get the Gold and we get the shaft..... The American people had a choice at a pivotal moment in history, letting the banks fail in order to rein in the abuses of the banker class, but the public failed to act; now live with sequestration...... Who did you think was going to bear the burden, of the bailout? .... Had Americans been debt free; we wouldn't be beholden to the government or the banker class they support; for handouts; The government of this class wanted the working class dependent on them.... Like a drug pusher loves their addicts, the government and banker class loves the addiction of spending and borrowing.... . They figure the more you can hook them on spending and borrowing, the more money to be made. That's not freedom; it's being enslaved to your habit. which they will gladly keep you.

Thanks, Momoe! I've been

stillidealistic — Sun, 26 May 2013 18:53:09 +0000

In reply to That obstructionism is

Thanks, Momoe! I've been reading now and then, but not commenting. It gets my blood pressure up, and except for a few lunatics here, we're pretty much preaching to the choir.

But, I'm taking so much heat from my conservative family for my political views that if I want to remain sane, I need to vent or I'll explode, and this is the place to do it.

I'm going to try to be around more...

Lower taxes is NOT the

stillidealistic — Sun, 26 May 2013 18:48:45 +0000

In reply to I see things differently, I

Lower taxes is NOT the objective, it is the means to the end of giving the government less money to spend, thereby shrinking it to the point where it can dragged into the bathroom and drowned.

Funny though, I have yet to see one of these tea party folks refuse their salaries or their health care. Or even suggest that their pay be lower, or that they have the same health care as is available in the worst plan that normal folks have. They are on the very teat they claim to hate. Do you for one minute think they'll give up their pension "to help reduce the deficit?"

Nor have I seen one bill come from these people that requires more over-sight of these "bankers" you're claiming they hate. Nor have I seen them clamoring for heads to roll because of the Wall St. debacle. All I see is them trying to protect the uber-wealthy and the corporations.

For all their screaming about jobs, jobs, jobs, I've seen not a single comprehensive jobs bills, but by God, they've voted to get rid of Obama care what? 37 times now? I've lost track.

They are a joke. Only it's not funny.

I see things differently, I

Resistance — Sun, 26 May 2013 14:16:14 +0000

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I see things differently, I saw Richard Lugar lose along with other moderate Republicans. As you call it the lunatics have taken over. The lunatics are flexing their political clout and it is working. Lower deficits and lower taxes is the objective,. Of course if you've rationalized that higher deficits and higher taxes is best for this country then the TEA party gains more traction. Call them what you want.... Corporations dont care if you spend and spend until you owe some creditor your soul. and the money changers love it too, because inflation raises interest rates and stock prices...... Some people dont see a bright future owing China or others our hard earned money, or hearing how broke we are, yet we give biillions to prop up dictators, or how we have to pay Karzai, so we can keep stability in some foreign land, building schools and hospitals and roads in some far away land with borrowed money the money has to be paid back. Now some would say thats insanity being foisted upon Americans by the lunatics. .....Everyday now, you hear how the Federal Reserve is thinking about raising interest rates, which every Tea Party member and working class Americans see as nothing more, than enriching the banks and corporations. The Tea Party was against the bailouts to begin with and they want to be free from the vultures and in order to do that, you have to cut the need for more bororrowing, Live debt free and the banker class doesnt have a death grip on the working class. Why would the banker class care if the interest on the debt is going to choke us, and not the banks or their lackeys in Congress who can just print more money and the banks can make more with higher interest rates. We have to break the cycle they have inflicted upon us. Of course theirs going to be pain, thats what the banker class thought would keep them in power, we wouldnt dare think about rejecting their system because of the pain that would follow. "God .... the pusher man,... he dont care if you live or die. ".

That obstructionism is

trkingmomoe — Sun, 26 May 2013 08:06:40 +0000

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That obstructionism is fracturing the GOP. There is a real power struggle going on in the GOP House members. They seem not to be able to get much traction from all the scandals they are investigating. There won't be anything worth while out of the House until the obstuctionist lose power. Right now they can't agree on anything but repealing Obamacare and blackmail. Thirty-eight bills passed in the House to repeal Obamacare is starting to sound like a death rattle. McTurtle has to run way over to the crazy side to get through his primary next year, so he is not going to do anything in the Senate that will move things forward. He made nice with Rand Paul and is now walking hand in hand with him. So Harry Reid won't do anything about the fillabuster, that leaves the Senate waisting time while to country hurts. Most of us here agree with you. Silli it is nice to hear from you.

It has nothing to do with

stillidealistic — Sun, 26 May 2013 02:57:53 +0000

In reply to Evidently the Republicans are

It has nothing to do with being smart. The Repubs don't CARE if they get blamed. They wear their obstructionism like a badge of honor. They WANT the country to fall apart, so they can rush in and save it. Except that they've gotten in bed with lunatics that won't LET them save it. SO the threat would be meaningless. Dems, generally, DO care.

Evidently the Republicans are

Resistance — Sun, 26 May 2013 02:48:23 +0000

In reply to And whose credit card is he

Evidently the Republicans are smarter than Obama and the Democrats, When Bush needed Authorization to prepare for war, the democrats feared, what would happen if Saddam did have WMD. Now you tell me Obama isn't savvy enough to tell the Republicans "if we don't repair our infrastructure, the blame will be on them, if we can't act quickly enough, because our infrastructure is broken and they refused to fix it" . .... I believe the infrastructure in America, will not be repaired, until wages are forced lower. Maybe someone could tell me; is the Davis - Bacon Act still in force or is that too under assault and that could be the reason, our government doesn't focus on infrastructure projects. Jobs will come forth, when the people work for less.

And whose credit card is he

stillidealistic — Sun, 26 May 2013 01:45:04 +0000

In reply to Again, as Commander and Chief

And whose credit card is he going to put it on? The House doesn't even want to pay for stuff we already bought, let alone pony up for a single solitary thing Obama wants.

Again, as Commander and Chief

Resistance — Sat, 25 May 2013 23:45:33 +0000

In reply to More consistency. EVERYTHING

Again, as Commander and Chief he could declare an emerency military response. Ike pushed for the need, for the Interstate Highway System, to be prepared for the rapid mobilization of troops and equipment, in a time of war.

Ha! I missed that! Thanks for

stillidealistic — Sat, 25 May 2013 17:20:11 +0000

In reply to You're close. If terrorists

Ha! I missed that! Thanks for pointing me to it.

Seriously, how much power to spend money without the House's permission does he have?

These crazy effers seriously want to see us return to the horse and buggy days, and the Wild West when you took care of yourself or died trying.