dagblog - Comments for "Kanye West, Michael Jackson And Insanity"

"Now that you like me, I'm

Orion — Sun, 07 Jul 2013 23:33:31 +0000

In reply to That's a brilliant review -

"Now that you like me, I'm going to make you unlike me." That must sum up whatever Yeezy is doing nowadays. At first I thought that drugs, his mother dying and his marriage to Kim Kardashian had been all working together to make him crazy and strange but Kanye had been producing top notch material for other rappers only last year.

This album was made to be horrible on purpose - you can tell that from the minimalist packaging - no liner notes, no track list and nothing printed on the CD. I agree with Lou Reed that Kanye is really talented - his work with Dilated Peoples or the Cruel Summer compilation he produced show that - but you wouldn't know it from this trash.

That's a brilliant review -

PeraclesPlease — Sun, 07 Jul 2013 07:59:20 +0000

In reply to Lou Reed reviews Yeezus.

That's a brilliant review - it's like Willie Wonka giving you a tour of the album."the boats keep rowing, and the danger keeps on growing..." Maybe it's a factory Yeezus after all, caught between laughter & despair, enjoyment & pretentiousness, being fresh & being robotic.

Only thing I can't figure out is how Lou could think Metal Machine would hold up for 4 whole sides. Everyone else said he did it to get out of a record contract, but he's sticking with his story 40 years later - not that it wasn't a great statement to make in the summer of disco with "Kung Fu Fighting" and KC & the Sunshine Band getting all the radio & club play - soon we would have Patti Smith & the Sex Pistols & the Ramones and Joy Division and Neubauten to heal our saccharined souls. A "giant FUCK YOU" as the great critic Lester Bangs said at the time. Or as Lou says of Kanye, "kill Taylor Swift and it's all over".

Lou Reed reviews Yeezus.

artappraiser — Sun, 07 Jul 2013 07:26:33 +0000

In reply to Kanye West, Michael Jackson And Insanity

Lou Reed reviews Yeezus.

Well no - it's not that

Orion — Fri, 21 Jun 2013 17:38:08 +0000

In reply to Or if it's diminishing

Well no - it's not that serious. LOL maybe it came across like that in the article but if so, it's my fault - I have a tendency toward dramatizing due to all the political writing. There's still alot of great stuff going on still.

Also, Kanye was sounding totally on point only a couple months ago:

Cruel Summer sounds like it was made for a hardcore rap audience, however. Yeezus is for the hipsters - they're the ones who buy his albums. The hardcore rap audience - we bootleg. Hipsters are about irony - like the irony of listening to music that doesn't actually sound good or say anything of any significance.

Or if it's diminishing

PeraclesPlease — Fri, 21 Jun 2013 13:19:34 +0000

In reply to It's like you buy into the

Or if it's diminishing already, maybe this will somehow rejuvenate. Maybe not this album but the one after...

Sometimes the best successes come from the biggest failures, and sometimes shifting from one groove to another means a pretty jarring hop out of the tracks.

Dylan freaked a lot of people out when he went electric. The Joy Division => New Order shift was bizarre but ultimately successful & industry changing. James Brown transformed when he went from soul to his P-Funk allstar backing, while Miles shifted drastically from cool jazz to fusion.

Somehow you're disappointed both as an audience / hip hop advocate, but also on a personal level - his relationship with his wife, etc. Not sure what to make of that. At the end of the day, he's just another dude doing his best, ups & downs.

It's like you buy into the

Orion — Fri, 21 Jun 2013 12:55:38 +0000

In reply to I didn't take anything you

It's like you buy into the celebrity thing, that you are sure you know him, he is a friend and you know all his problems, and you are giving him advice. Instead of just keeping it to why you like or hate the particular work.

Okay, well here is the thing - there is a reason Kanye West is so significant. He is like a charismatic Dr. Dre - he didn't just make his own music but he produced music for everyone from Mos Def to Jay-Z. He is really talented. He helped shape the genre of hip-hop itself - he is responsible for ending gangsta rap by defeating 50 Cent in sales and creating an ocean of surrogate Kanyes (artists like Lupe Fiasco, Kenan Bell, etc. come to mind).

Hip-hop is the best genre. Most people who avoid it haven't really given it a chance are have racist or classist prejudices. Hip-hop tells stories in a way no other genre does. The genre itself is diminishing in significance already - this sort of nonsense may do away with it completely.

LOLLLL

Orion — Fri, 21 Jun 2013 12:48:48 +0000

In reply to Is the middle name Bynorth?

LOLLLL

Is the middle name Bynorth?

Verified Atheist — Fri, 21 Jun 2013 12:11:30 +0000

In reply to Well, I don't know that Kanye

Is the middle name Bynorth?

Well, I don't know that Kanye

Orion — Fri, 21 Jun 2013 11:49:23 +0000

In reply to I didn't take anything you

Well, I don't know that Kanye will be molesting children or doing drugs the way that MJ did - it's more that the actual sound and style of his music is getting like MJ's did - really weird and somewhat unpleasant. In addition, him and Kim Kardashian apparently named their child North. Get it - like North West? Intervention time maybe?

Kanye did some of the best production ever in hip-hop. He is really good at what he does when he does it right. This album is either intentionally bad, lazy or both. I'd really like to see the real Kanye back.

That review was bad. Sorry if

Orion — Thu, 20 Jun 2013 20:25:17 +0000

In reply to very interesting review,

That review was bad. Sorry if that seems dismissive but I don't understand the writer's enthusiasm - the best review came from Okayplayer, the oldest hip-hop website: http://www.okayplayer.com/news/kanye-west-yeezus-review-by-big-ghost.html

And there's nothing brilliant about what Yeezy said about institutionalized racism. That has been said by a bunch of rappers previously over a melodic and rhythmic beat.

There are hundreds of very talented rappers and producers who are trying to break in to the music world. It isn't fair or just that they are cast aside while Kanye gets attention for defecating on our eardrums.