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Wikileaks is providing legal

rmrd0000 — Sun, 23 Jun 2013 14:01:06 +0000

Wikileaks is providing legal assistance.

Nancy Pelosi got booed at

rmrd0000 — Sun, 23 Jun 2013 13:45:16 +0000

Nancy Pelosi got booed at netroots Nation because of her comments about Snowden. Meanwhile Snowden appears to be in Moscow.

I was aware that an Airforce

A Guy Called LULU — Sun, 23 Jun 2013 02:06:28 +0000

In reply to A combat jet like and F4

I was aware that an Airforce fighter jet could destroy anything that flies and in the case of unarmed civilian planes it would be quite easy, but I would expect them to use old fashioned machine guns or rockets. I really doubt though that they would try to do it by inhaling the smaller craft considering that a seagull going through a jet engine can destroy it and in quite a few cases has done so.

The idea of the fuselage of a multi-engine aircraft, which is very much larger than the intake of a Phantom fighter jet, going through an F-4's engine, the fuselage being the part that the humans occupy, parts of which remained in the F-4's engine, and the F-4 then flying home, is quite surprising to say the least.
But, the thing is, unless they employ a tractor beam and drag Snowden's plane to where they choose, they would have to either destroy it, one way or another, or let it go its own way.

Which brings to mind an

jollyroger — Sat, 22 Jun 2013 22:26:21 +0000

In reply to Wow, dude, asian has a much

Which brings to mind an amusing tale, showing just how far back the Mexican thing goes...Sometime in the late 60s, having grown frustrated with street prices (oh for the days of the $10 "lid", where "lid"=Oz...) I arranged with and importer of fine drugs to take a front from me of $875, with the proviso that it turn into 5 bricks (back in the day when a brick was a true 33-34 oz.) of what we then, in our innocence, called Acapulco Gold.

Well, this story does not end with the heartbreak that you are, no doubt, already anticipating.

In fact, this man of honor was good as his word, and there I was, with felony quantities of weed in the middle of New York City.

Unfazed, but still cautious, I arranged with my friendly Chase Manhattan Banker to hold my stash, in what was called a safe deposit "drawer"--it was way too big for a mere "box."

Well, here the story turns, if not dark, at least a little rural. (as in compost...)

On my first visit to re-up (this was all for personal use, mind you...) which was maybe a month after making the "deposit", the attendant takes my key, and coupled with his, removes and brings me the box which was...wait for it...about 120 degrees f.

Uh-oh.

This, I thought, is certain to excite curiosity, if not scrutiny.

I immediately removed the now slightly moldy but still smokeable weed.

So not all the gold in a Chase Manhattan safe deposit vault is the kind you wear.

A combat jet like and F4

NCD — Sat, 22 Jun 2013 21:04:40 +0000

In reply to It is not important to me

A combat jet like and F4 Phantom weighs over 30 tons a multiengine Lear jet 6-7 tons. With three military jets in front and to the side, the civilian pilot has little choice but to obey commands given. It's like a Prius surrounded by Mack trucks.

Case in point, as a former pilot I used to read Flying magazine, there was a case in the ADIZ east coast in the 80's where an Air Force Phantom F4 was set to identify and intercept a multi-engine civilian aircraft coming into US airspace with no flight plan.

The civilian aircraft was destroyed when it was accidentally hit and ingested into the Phantoms's engines in clouds, causing the F4 some engine damage and a fuel leak. Bits of the civilian aircraft and human remains were found in one of the Phantom's engines when it returned to base. I assume the military pilot was sent for more training! There were no survivors in the civilian jet.

Wow, dude, asian has a much

ocean-kat — Sat, 22 Jun 2013 20:41:19 +0000

In reply to Iceland has blondes...

Wow, dude, asian has a much higher porn search rating than blonde. Especially among young tech types and gamers. I used to respect you as an expert in this area but now, I just don't know. Next thing you'll be telling us he should go to Mexico for the high quality pot.

Iceland has blondes...

jollyroger — Sat, 22 Jun 2013 19:50:52 +0000

In reply to I seem to recall that it's

Iceland has blondes...

It is not important to me

A Guy Called LULU — Sat, 22 Jun 2013 03:18:14 +0000

In reply to Read the transcript. Reality

It is not important to me whether or not Professor Young is correct that Snowden could get a job in Hong Kong working in the computer industry. I passed on that claim by Young as part of why I thought Snowden would prefer there to life in Iceland. Young seemed very credible to me, he lives in Hong Cong, he knows their laws. he has been following the case closely, he has an indication of the publics view of Snowden, and he did not seem to have any personal agenda. If given the chance to bet about whether Young is correct about his claim or else bet on your contradictory view, I would bet on Young. There are bound to be areas within your sphere of knowledge and outside of Young’s where I would bet on you.
Everything he said was predicated on the assumption that the U.S. would indict Snowden and nothing he said was claimed as any kind of absolute.
Below in your next comment you suggest that an Air Force jet could force down Snowden’s chartered jet. Now, just imagine, you are the F-16 pilot alongside that civilian plane flagged probably by Iceland, but surely not the U.S, you are far out over open water, and when you make radio contact and instruct the pilot, he shoots you the finger. What do you do now?

It will be interesting to see

erica20 — Sat, 22 Jun 2013 03:09:17 +0000

In reply to If Hong Kong lets him go and

It will be interesting to see how it plays out. I kind of think that nothing big will happen for awhile. US has 60 days to file the indictment and then the whole extradition thing starts.

(Hong Kong's extradition treaty with the US has an exception for political offenses.)

If Hong Kong lets him go and

NCD — Sat, 22 Jun 2013 01:59:22 +0000

In reply to The Obama administration has

If Hong Kong lets him go and Iceland accepts an American citizens charged with espionage, the private jet could be forced to land by the USAF. It's a long flight back to Iceland.