dagblog - Comments for "Presidente Correa & Media Suppression in Ecuador"

If Venzuela is the final

rmrd0000 — Wed, 26 Jun 2013 18:55:16 +0000

If Venzuela is the final destination, we will hear how great the reforms are in that country. The bottom line, you are pro-Snowden or you aren't. If Snowden threatens a data dump, some are standing steadfast in their support.

Oh My God, Ecuador has bought

Peter — Wed, 26 Jun 2013 18:39:46 +0000

In reply to Ecuador has its own NSA style

Oh My God, Ecuador has bought some spy gadgets that can track four people at once and now their capabilities rival the NSA's according to Buzzfeed. The timing of this supposed activist leak is a bit too convenient but it does show the hysterical response and need to discredit all involved in assisting Snowden.

Our spinmasters have lost control of the news cycle and are scrambling to regain their position and dominance, it's not working and their fear of the truth is evident.

Correct. And Peracles is

NCD — Wed, 26 Jun 2013 18:38:04 +0000

In reply to I'd like to mention that

Correct. And Peracles is telling me how Presidente Correa is resolutely purging Ecuador of the vile influence of the Limbaughistas and DeHearstas who have previously exercised their sinister dictatorial powers over that southern nation, while Correa appoints a Commission of supporters to ensure the people hear only the sacred truth.

I thought the thumb drive was

PeraclesPlease — Wed, 26 Jun 2013 18:12:17 +0000

In reply to I see you want to avoid

I thought the thumb drive was just speculation from someone who guessed that you wouldn't just walk out with laptops. I hear Lady GaGa is the media of choice. When will the intelligence actually follow up on their 4-year-old recommendation to limit removable media use on machines with secure access? You'd think maybe they want to lose this data.

Yes, it's called "freedom of

PeraclesPlease — Wed, 26 Jun 2013 18:09:02 +0000

In reply to 'Dictatorship of the media'.

Yes, it's called "freedom of the press" even if it's yellow journalism by Hearst, paid-for untrue hit jobs by the Koch Brothers such as Swiftboating, mass-bought control like Clear Channel, or 24x7 hate & deception by Rush Limbaugh, Bill O'Reilly and Glenn Beck. That wonderful freedom of the press that brought us Judy Miller taking background talking points from the White House & Pentagon to help deceive us into war. That freedom of the press that tells us Obama is a Muslim socialist born in Kenya.

In your exhuberant glee at a supposed contradiction, did you ever imagine that a bunch of rich oligarchs can buy up a country's media and broadcast any old shit they want, and it doesn't equal "freedom of the press" in the sense of "marketplace of ideas"? Does "freedom of the press" have to equal the ability to libel and slander with impunity? Our huge nationwide press agencies all decided not to cover the previous pre-trial hearings for Bradley Manning - that's what a bought-and-paid-for "free press" gets you - where actual news has to be handled by blogger volunteers.

As Matt Taibbi notes, "You can usually tell if you're running a Chumpbait piece if you find yourself writing the same article as 10,000 other hacks."

Americans more and more enjoy their Chumpbait which has replaced the previous sense of journalism once found in many media outlets. (McClatchy still running strong even though smaller than the rest; other orgs like Rolling Stone stepping up)

I'd like to mention that

rmrd0000 — Wed, 26 Jun 2013 17:32:51 +0000

In reply to 'Dictatorship of the media'.

I'd like to mention that terrorist cells are changing tactics based on information that have gained from media reorts of the NSA proramss, but since it does not relate directly to Ecuador, I can't.

'Dictatorship of the media'.

NCD — Wed, 26 Jun 2013 17:28:21 +0000

In reply to No, at this point is "can we

'Dictatorship of the media'. Love it. It's also called freedom of the press.

When el Presidente rules over the media it's just a plain vanilla traditional dictatorship isn't it?

I love the guy embracing Wikileaks total press freedom, while choking off the press domestically. As I said, hypocrisy is not an exclusively American failing.

Blogs often go in various

rmrd0000 — Wed, 26 Jun 2013 17:13:34 +0000

In reply to You use irrelevant questions

Blogs often go in various directions. Snowden choose China and Russia. We are not sure if Ecuador is a real possibility or not. Venezuela and Iceland were mentioned are they off limits as well?

If Glenn Greenwald says that Snowden threatens a data dump while we are discussing Ecuador is that off limits? I wouldn't want the break the rules that you are setting for us.

You use irrelevant questions

PeraclesPlease — Wed, 26 Jun 2013 17:01:21 +0000

In reply to So we can ask any question,

You use irrelevant questions to avoid providing relevant answers.

If it's a diary on Ecuador, the focus on this diary obviously has shifted to Ecuador - so I answered the ill-informed nonsense about Correa. Yes, I'd prefer we got back to the much more important issue of metadata & the NSA, CIA, FBI, Homeland Security & related.

I see you want to avoid

rmrd0000 — Wed, 26 Jun 2013 16:11:58 +0000

In reply to So we can ask any question,

I see you want to avoid discussing the threat to release the thumb drive data. I can understand why you would.