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Wow I meant to say defectors

rmrd0000 — Wed, 03 Jul 2013 23:01:38 +0000

Wow I meant to say defectors not factors.

As I think I mentioned on

artappraiser — Wed, 03 Jul 2013 22:29:50 +0000

As I think I mentioned on another thread, I've always wondered if that is something about the Russian culture. Expats, whether during the Soviet era or before or after, just don't seem to fare well there.

good to know someone else is

artappraiser — Wed, 03 Jul 2013 22:27:09 +0000

In reply to Thanks for this and your

good to know someone else is looking at my Egypt news updates....

The mental health of many

rmrd0000 — Wed, 03 Jul 2013 20:27:24 +0000

In reply to Snowden, Prism, and Us - Food for Thought

The mental health of many factors has suffered

Thanks for this and your

rmrd0000 — Wed, 03 Jul 2013 20:04:36 +0000

In reply to Excellent point: Why Won?t

Thanks for this and your posts on Egypt.

Excellent point: Why Won?t

artappraiser — Wed, 03 Jul 2013 19:23:45 +0000

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Excellent point:

Why Won’t Anyone Take Edward Snowden?
Because he is a terrible candidate for asylum.
By Eric Posner, Slate, July 3, 2013

[....] Snowden could be regarded as a political dissenter, but the United States is attempting to arrest him not because he holds dissenting views, but because he violated the law by disclosing information that he had sworn to keep secret. All countries have such laws; they could hardly grant asylum to an American for committing acts that they themselves would regard as crimes if committed by their own nationals [....]

I would think it is less about pressure from the U.S. than it is this, that after investigating his story and thinking a minute, seeing someone who could just become a big thorn in your side. He would be an example their own "troublemakers" could point to, i.e., "you supported him, why not me, your own citizen 'whistleblower'"?

You have zero credibility.

rmrd0000 — Wed, 03 Jul 2013 18:35:30 +0000

In reply to Uh, he says "journalists",

You have zero credibility. You wrongly attacked me. Now you whine. Get over it. Time for me to enjoy the day.

Uh, he says "journalists",

PeraclesPlease — Wed, 03 Jul 2013 17:59:18 +0000

In reply to Response to PP above. Here is

Uh, he says "journalists", i.e. informing media, not governments. Subtle difference.

Response to PP above. Here is

rmrd0000 — Wed, 03 Jul 2013 16:31:33 +0000

In reply to Snowden, Prism, and Us - Food for Thought

Response to PP above. Here is an example of how discussions about lying have gone

The attack because of lack of knowledge of the OWS surveillance. Is just one example. There is a reflex charge of lying. Here is one exchange.

China made the decision that Snowden could leave Hong Kong.

by rmrd0000 6/25/2013 - 6:58 am (re: rmrd0000) edit reply delete

Snowden seems to have taken the job to release NSA dpmestic spying info to US citizens.

You're intentionally overplaying every "fact" you come across.

Is that how you typically win arguments?

by PeraclesPlease 6/25/2013 - 8:17 am (re: rmrd0000) reply

From Snowden's interview with the South China Morning Post

"If I have time to go through this information, I would like to make it available to journalists in each country to make their own assessment, independent of my bias, as to whether or not the knowledge of US network operations against their people should be published."

Snowden does not say that he is informing US citizens, he is informing foreign governments.

by rmrd0000 6/25/2013 - 8:44 am (re: PeraclesPlease) reply delete

I was said to be misstating facts, when I was quoting Snowden's statement.. I'll post more examples. Being called a liar by PP carries little impact.

As I told Ramona, she forgot

rmrd0000 — Wed, 03 Jul 2013 15:55:56 +0000

In reply to Lying about what I say is

As I told Ramona, she forgot to play by your rules.

By your rules, only you are allowed to be offended. It is ridiculous. Bring up Burma again when we are discussing US law, then complain about someone going off topic. Hey today is the 150th anniversary of Pickett's charge at Gettysburg and the retreat of the Confederates.