He did that already with

PeraclesPlease — Thu, 25 Jul 2013 15:41:31 +0000

In reply to Wyden's speech lays out all

He did that already with Brenner, which didn't prevent Brenner getting approved as head of CIA. You can only fail in Washington if you predict correctly that an invasion of a country is misguided and illegal, or predict that the housing bubble will pop and bank assets will be horridly overexposed. The Beltway hates know-it-alls; they prefer human foibles and egregious shameless fuckups.

Wyden's speech lays out all

A Guy Called LULU — Thu, 25 Jul 2013 13:15:21 +0000

In reply to Sen Wyden slams US Surveillance

Wyden's speech lays out all the reasons why these programs are wrong and intimates strongly that we still don't know the full scope of what they are doing. Has he committed treason too?

Wyden has long been saying that he knew things he was not allowed to tell to the American public because they were official secrets. I'm not going to search for the quote but I have heard him express through the use of plurals when talking about secret programs that there are others, still secret, which are just as invasive and wrong as are the ones we have recently had verified as existing. But, they are secret and he cannot reveal them without breaking the law.

Wyden had to simply stare somewhat shocked as Clapper blatantly lied during a Congressional hearing. He could not say that he knew Clapper was putting out a line of crap in his denial of the vast surveillance programs because that would be revealing something that was classified.

I wonder: Suppose Wyden were willing to go further in a similar situation and he was willing to push the boundaries of Senate collegiality, or however they describe the policy of staying polite as bullshit is thrown at them, could he ask Clapper or some other major dude leading questions implicating the existence of the still secret programs and let them lie without rebuttal. Then, in concluding remarks, but without referring to any specific answers, he could say that he had heard some specific statements in testimony that he knew for a fact to be perjury. It is surely no secret that government officials lie their asses off on a regular basis. It is ridiculous and stupid, IMO, to let them get away with their secret bs on the unspoken Straussian principle that they are telling a necessary 'noble lie'. If treason has been committed, who really are the felons in spirit?

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He did that already with

Wyden's speech lays out all