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Suspect in killing of

artappraiser — Fri, 23 Aug 2013 03:04:30 +0000

In reply to 'Bored' Teens Kill Aussie Jogger in Oklahoma

Suspect in killing of Australian Chris Lane tweeted: 'time to start taken life's' (from rap song)
By Randi Kaye, Hilary Whiteman and Josh Levs, CNN, 8:32 PM EDT, Thu August 22, 2013

(CNN) -- One of the Oklahoma teenagers accused of killing 23-year-old Australian baseball player Christopher Lane previously posted images online showing himself posing with guns and wads of cash.

And three days before what police call the indiscriminate shooting, the suspect, 15-year-old James Edwards Jr., tweeted, "With my n****s when it's time to start taken life's" -- a line from the Chief Keef rap song, "I Don't Like."

Back in April, he tweeted, "90% of white ppl (people) are nasty. #HATE THEM."

Police in the town of Duncan have charged Edwards and Chancey Luna, 16, as adults with first degree felony murder, said Kaylee Chandler, a Stephens County court clerk [....]

Police say it was Jones who ultimately told them, "We were bored and didn't have anything to do, so we decided to kill somebody."

The police affidavit lists Edwards and Chancey as black, and Jones as white.

Edwards' older sister said Thursday she finds it hard to believe her brother would ever post online messages about killing and hate.

"I know that he has a lot of Caucasian friends with whom he hangs with," Rachel Padilla told CNN's "Erin Burnett OutFront" from her home in Duncan. "The only way that I would feel that he would say anything racist about anybody is because that we have felt racism from some of the people here in the community of Stephens County."

Padilla said her brother has been in trouble with the police before for fighting, but she said he's never been a vicious person and she would never have thought he could kill someone. She said Edwards "hung around older people that were affiliated with gangs" but she doesn't know if he was in a gang himself [....]

Here's the Chief Keef lyrics - I Don't Like, sounds like pretty hard core gang/gansta stuff.

There's more on him

artappraiser — Thu, 22 Aug 2013 23:00:18 +0000

In reply to I don't know much about this

There's more on him here:

http://bigstory.ap.org/article/parents-wait-worry-after-ga-school-shooting

It's interesting that his rage or whatever that caused him to plot action seemed to dissipate rather quickly and easily. Sounds mostly to me like it was an intention of "suicide by cop."

I don't know much about this

Orion — Thu, 22 Aug 2013 21:45:09 +0000

In reply to Story for ya on that,

I don't know much about this individual in particular but I have had people I know from various backgrounds who have told me about suddenly thinking about nothing but murder and violence when on/coming off SSRIs. The spectrum of diversity of experience of people on these meds is so wide that you can't really dismiss the common denominator.

Story for ya on that,

artappraiser — Wed, 21 Aug 2013 22:25:51 +0000

In reply to Yeah so apparently there was

Story for ya on that, Orion:

Georgia school shooting suspect: ‘Sorry, I’m off my meds’

I know, I know, you're going to say it was withdrawal syndrome....

P.S. There's a load of detailed coverage on the incident @ The Lede.

The bright side to all this

Orion — Wed, 21 Aug 2013 14:07:55 +0000

In reply to Sad. We have gone from

The bright side to all this is that this level of media coverage and near daily massacres will mean the Second Amendment will be history in the near future.

Sad. We have gone from

rmrd0000 — Wed, 21 Aug 2013 12:39:32 +0000

In reply to 'Bored' Teens Kill Aussie Jogger in Oklahoma

Sad. We have gone from Chaney, Goodman and Schwerner to these guys. Both events occurred in August. Society is failing our children. We close schools and send jobs overseas. We have no funds for summer programs. These "bored" teens took a life and in the process lost theirs.

Drone syndrome?

Orion — Wed, 21 Aug 2013 04:09:54 +0000

In reply to Lane was shot with a

Drone syndrome?

Lane was shot with a

artappraiser — Tue, 20 Aug 2013 19:09:18 +0000

In reply to No one had a Bushmaster rifle

Lane was shot with a 22-caliber revolver. And it's handguns that kill the most innocents in this country. You have drone syndrome about large automatic weapons. You can't hide those that easy. They get used in a few high profile crimes like school shootings and in the movies about drug dealers, but aren't really the source of the gun death problem. The real massacre that is going on day after day in this country is with handguns (accidents, crimes of passion, gang wars, robberies, muggings, etc.) Because you can hide them in your pocket or bedside drawer and kill anytime. Hence the controversy about "stop and frisk."

No one had a Bushmaster rifle

Orion — Tue, 20 Aug 2013 18:50:19 +0000

In reply to llusions could be better

No one had a Bushmaster rifle or an AR-15 in Ancient Rome.

I have never personally been mugged - I have been pressed for money but that is very different. Such events would suck but they'd be a whole lot less scary if people weren't walking around with the weapons of the Mujahideen. An Adam Lanza wouldn't be possible 500 years ago, no matter how demented the individual.

llusions could be better

artappraiser — Tue, 20 Aug 2013 18:43:48 +0000

In reply to It's very possible that I'd

llusions could be better maintained.

Everyone with an internet connection is an urbanite now. Those illusions were only maintained in rural areas and suburbia. They weren't maintained in NYC of the late 70's and early 80's where you really did risk getting mugged taking the subway, nor in the NYC of the 19th century, nor in ancient Rome for that matter. Everyone in urban areas without sufficient rule of law knows of daily tragedy. (And even with decent rule of law, naturally occurring tragedy is always close by, just because lots of other people are close by.)

Here's the thing: suburbia and rural places sell their own brand of unhappiness, less violent to the body, maybe, but also maybe just as disturbing to many brains if not more so. Leave it to Beaver was a fictional TV show, so was The Waltons. See Betty Friedan.

And also, the planet cannot continue with the sprawl of every nuclear family on it having a suburban-single-family home and plot of land to go with it, even if some people out there still believe the myth that it's a great way to raise children.