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I hope you are not banned for

Peter — Thu, 29 Aug 2013 15:49:30 +0000

I hope you are not banned for your comments here bslev, you perform an important function by exposing others to the reactionary mind and the faulty, biased logic it produces. You lead with a bloody assault on Assad, however deserved, then retreat to the mercantile cost/benefit analysis all cloaked in a humanitarian veil.

Sorry OK. I didn't notice

Bruce Levine — Wed, 28 Aug 2013 19:49:28 +0000

In reply to This nitpicking focus on a

Sorry OK. I didn't notice this before--otherwise engaged. . . I absolutely understand and have no reason to contest the validity of your position. The only thing, I thought, we were discussing before the sidetracking--certainly you and I at least had been doing so--was whether the cost of a response outweighs the benefits of no response. I guess I feel that the world community still, to this very day, has some real universal red lines that need to be respected, and I think that poison gas is one of those things that I feel still was something that all agreed was off limits--given the horrors associated with the use of poison gas on and off the battlefields over the last century. And I say this having read recently that the Reagan Administration appears to have taken steps to cover up the Iraqi's use of poison gas.

So I understand and truly respect your position. But it just doesn't do it for me in the end I guess.

Many thanks OK, as always.

Res ipsa.

Bruce Levine — Wed, 28 Aug 2013 18:37:05 +0000

In reply to I would gladly see Assad

Res ipsa.

I would gladly see Assad

A Guy Called LULU — Wed, 28 Aug 2013 18:24:37 +0000

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I would gladly see Assad bleed i.e. die in order to stop the gassing of babies.

I am going to presume that the president will choose among the best of bad options.

If the international community cannot respond to this with something more than collective condemnation and hand-wringing, then international law is even more meaningless than it has been in the past.

You are strongly asserting a desire for action beyond "condemnation and hand-wringing". I take that as a hope for a military response. The military response you hope for will kill people. Almost certainly the wrong people for the wrong reason.

If you choose to say now that you would not do the killing yourself but merely wish someone else would conveniently do it instead, then I will agree that my language was imprecise, that you did not express an urge to personally do any killing but merely the hope that someone else would kill because you are outraged.

You have often expressed an abiding, unashamed, deep love for the state of Israel and for its people. Does that not imply a loyalty to them? If I were to call that evidence of a dual loyalty it would be because of an assumption that you also have loyalty to the U.S. You do, don't you? You can count to two, can't you.

This nitpicking focus on a

ocean-kat — Wed, 28 Aug 2013 18:20:16 +0000

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This nitpicking focus on a sentence seems silly to me. I too would make Assad bleed personally if it would stop the gassing. Doesn't mean I'm suggesting you and I rent a plane for a secret mission into Syria to assassinate Assad.

I just don't think there's anything we can do to stop the use of poison gas. I guess a symbolic gesture is called for. I'm just not going to pretend its anything but a symbolic gesture.

You are commenting on a

Bruce Levine — Wed, 28 Aug 2013 17:22:57 +0000

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You are commenting on a public forum and expressing an urge to kill.

That is just a lie lulu and a defamatory one for what it is worth. I invite you to withdraw that allegation, as any decent human being would.

I think I know why you're stalking me on this lulu. I think you hate the fact that it's not about Israel, and I think you think that all I care about is Israel and I think that you asked me if I would do the killing myself as a veiled reference to the kind of dual loyalty you have suggested of me in the past (please don't deny it lulu), or perhaps even worse still, that you would attempt to use my statement as evidence that Jews have other people doing their fighting for them.

You can have the last word lulu. I am writing under a last chance warning, and I don't want to have to take a chance on blowing things because of you, or what I believe is in your soul.

You are commenting on a

A Guy Called LULU — Wed, 28 Aug 2013 16:22:00 +0000

In reply to What difference does it make

You are commenting on a public forum and expressing an urge to kill. That invites a response. I'll say any damned thing I want to about that and I'll question your statements and the mentality that produce them any damned time I choose. As a matter of decency. Bullshit. I happen to think "... it's healthy to ponder the issue of whether force is appropriate under this or that circumstance."

What do you think the topic was that I wrongly strayed from?

Hey, what's The Narrative's

artappraiser — Tue, 27 Aug 2013 21:12:46 +0000

In reply to Re: we become the sole

Hey, what's The Narrative's explanation for why the Ameerkan empire client, the Egyptian military, is being so disobedient? And when exactly, at what point in time, did it lose its control of Assad? In the previous version of The Narrative, I thought he was one of Ameerka's lackeys....

Re: we become the sole

artappraiser — Tue, 27 Aug 2013 20:37:42 +0000

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Re: we become the sole arbiter of what is right and what and who is wrong

That all depends on whether you believe "Amerika" is king of the world and can tell everyone else what to do, of course

France ready to 'punish' those behind Syria gas attack

Turkey says Syria chemical attack must not go unpunished

Germany: Syria Must Be Punished if Gas Use Confirmed

etc.

How about that intervention in Mali? You got a screed about French imperialism posted anywhere that one can reference? And the Saudis in Bahrain? Rwandan forces in Congo? Hezbollah in Syria for that matter?

The facts are that everyone's been waffling on Syria for two years, and now you want to make threats about chemical weapons use (not the first allegation, I'd like to point out,) into an agitprop narrative fighting the ghost of the G.W. Bush administration.

I can't take anything you say seriously after seeing what you've written here. You sound very much like the formerly-active Dagblog member "Oleeb," same simplistic preachy shtick about the Ameerkan empire ruling the world.

What difference does it make

Bruce Levine — Tue, 27 Aug 2013 20:32:08 +0000

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What difference does it make if I say on some blog to an invisible person named lulu that I would or would not be willing and/or able to kill Assad myself?

Seriously lulu I'm allowed to express my opinion without being interrogated by you as to me as a person. Stick to the issue, please, as a matter of common decency. I find your question unnecessarily argumentative, at best, and off-topic in any event.