dagblog - Comments for "Israeli Official:&#039;Miscalculation&#039; in Gas Attack" http://dagblog.com/link/israeli-officialmiscalculation-chemical-attack-17332 Comments for "Israeli Official:'Miscalculation' in Gas Attack" en From the new Snowden leak of http://dagblog.com/comment/183133#comment-183133 <a id="comment-183133"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/link/israeli-officialmiscalculation-chemical-attack-17332">Israeli Official:&#039;Miscalculation&#039; in Gas Attack</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>From the new Snowden leak of the Intel Agencies "Black Budget,"</p> <p><a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/black-budget-summary-details-us-spy-networks-successes-failures-and-objectives/2013/08/29/7e57bb78-10ab-11e3-8cdd-bcdc09410972_story.html">U.S. spy network’s successes, failures and objectives detailed in ‘black budget’ summary</a><br /> By Barton Gellman and Greg Miller, Washington Post, August 29, 2013,</p> <p>here's what's related.</p> <p>On Syria:</p> <blockquote> <p>High-tech surveillance</p> <p>The documents make clear that U.S. spy agencies’ long-standing reliance on technology remains intact. If anything, their dependence on high-tech surveillance systems to fill gaps in human intelligence has intensified [....]</p> <p>In Syria, NSA listening posts were able to monitor unencrypted communications among senior military officials at the outset of the civil war there, a vulnerability that President Bashar al-Assad’s forces apparently later recognized. One of the NRO’s functions is to extract data from sensors placed on the ground near suspected illicit weapons sites in Syria and other countries [....]</p> </blockquote> <p>On chemical weapons:</p> <blockquote> <p>Critical gaps</p> <p>Despite the vast outlays, the budget blueprint catalogs persistent and in some cases critical blind spots.</p> <p>Throughout the document, U.S. spy agencies attempt to rate their efforts in tables akin to report cards, generally citing progress but often acknowledging that only a fraction of their questions could be answered — even on the community’s foremost priority, counter-terrorism. [....]</p> <p>A chart outlining efforts to address key questions on biological and chemical weapons is particularly bleak. U.S. agencies set themselves annual goals of making progress in at least five categories of intelligence collection related to these weapons. In 2011, the agencies made headway on just two gaps; a year earlier the mark was zero.</p> <p>The documents describe expanded efforts to “collect on Russian chemical warfare countermeasures” and assess the security of biological and chemical laboratories in Pakistan [....]</p> </blockquote> <p>The latter makes me wonder about what the powers-that-be are thinking about what's going to happen to Syria's chemical weapons stores if the rebels end up ousting Assad.</p> <p>Another thing. On the fact that WaPo agreed to a black out of lots of information from the leaked Black Budget on national security grounds gives me a clue to watch what the reporters who have had full access say and do about contentious intel issues like Syria. Gellman and Miller, they now know things on that front that we don't.</p> </div></div></div> Thu, 29 Aug 2013 21:55:15 +0000 artappraiser comment 183133 at http://dagblog.com Not really off-topic, I http://dagblog.com/comment/183130#comment-183130 <a id="comment-183130"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/183116#comment-183116">And I noted that Obama, on</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Not really off-topic, I think.</p> <blockquote> <h1> Syrian father thought son was dead – watch as they reunite</h1> <p>The conflict in Syria has produced more horrible videos than perhaps any other in history. The footage that has reached a global audience through YouTube and other online video services has shown the horror, suffering and destruction that this two year long war has caused, and is still causing, every day.<br /><br /> At a point when even more strikes seem to be looming, it is a heartwarming relief, if only for a moment, to see a happy video from Syria, probably the first one in a very long time.<br /><br /> All parents can relate to the unimaginable grief of losing a child - and the joy if it turned out to still be alive. Watch as this man from the southwestern Syrian town of Zamalka is reunited with his son who was believed to have been killed - like so many other Syrian children - in a recent military strike.<br /><br /> The father appears about a minute into the clip, which was posted by Syrian activists on Monday.</p> <p><a href="http://www.yourmiddleeast.com/news/syrian-father-thought-son-was-dead-watch-as-they-reunite_17461">http://www.yourmiddleeast.com/news/syrian-father-thought-son-was-dead-wa...</a></p> </blockquote> <p> </p> </div></div></div> Thu, 29 Aug 2013 16:13:28 +0000 A Guy Called LULU comment 183130 at http://dagblog.com U.S. satellites have captured http://dagblog.com/comment/183129#comment-183129 <a id="comment-183129"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/183116#comment-183116">And I noted that Obama, on</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><div id="stcpDiv" style="position: absolute; top: -1999px; left: -1988px;"> U.S. satellites have captured images of Syrian troops moving trucks into weapons storage areas and removing materials, but U.S. analysts have not been able to track what was moved or, in some cases, where it was relocated. They are also not certain that when they saw what looked like Assad’s forces moving chemical supplies, those forces were able to remove everything before rebels took over an area where weapons had been stored. - See more at: <a href="http://www.emptywheel.net/2013/08/29/general-idris-close-watch-on-assads-cw/#more-37802">http://www.emptywheel.net/2013/08/29/general-idris-close-watch-on-assads...</a></div> <p>U.S. satellites have captured images of Syrian troops moving trucks into weapons storage areas and removing materials, but U.S. analysts have not been able to track what was moved or, in some cases, where it was relocated. <strong>They are also not certain that when they saw what looked like Assad’s forces moving chemical supplies, those forces were able to remove everything before rebels took over an area where weapons had been stored</strong>. - See more at: <a href="http://www.emptywheel.net/2013/08/29/general-idris-close-watch-on-assads-cw/#more-37802">http://www.emptywheel.net/2013/08/29/general-idris-close-watch-on-assads...</a></p> </div></div></div> Thu, 29 Aug 2013 16:01:47 +0000 A Guy Called LULU comment 183129 at http://dagblog.com Dangling Questions on Syrian http://dagblog.com/comment/183127#comment-183127 <a id="comment-183127"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/183116#comment-183116">And I noted that Obama, on</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><h1> Dangling Questions on Syrian War. Well worth a read, IMO.</h1> <p><a href="http://consortiumnews.com/2013/08/29/dangling-questions-on-syrian-war/">http://consortiumnews.com/2013/08/29/dangling-questions-on-syrian-war/</a></p> </div></div></div> Thu, 29 Aug 2013 15:35:14 +0000 A Guy Called LULU comment 183127 at http://dagblog.com Red Lines Drawn with Syrian http://dagblog.com/comment/183126#comment-183126 <a id="comment-183126"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/183116#comment-183116">And I noted that Obama, on</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><h1 class="article-title"> <font size="-1">Red Lines Drawn with Syrian Blood. This guy stole my metaphor.   </font></h1> <p><a href="http://www.counterpunch.org/2013/08/29/red-lines-drawn-with-syrian-blood/">http://www.counterpunch.org/2013/08/29/red-lines-drawn-with-syrian-blood/</a></p> </div></div></div> Thu, 29 Aug 2013 15:23:58 +0000 A Guy Called LULU comment 183126 at http://dagblog.com The videos and screen shots http://dagblog.com/comment/183122#comment-183122 <a id="comment-183122"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/183116#comment-183116">And I noted that Obama, on</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>The videos and screen shots linked below could easily be setups. The men could all be among Assad's closest buddies wearing their knock-around civies while they play one-dimensional tidily winks. They do look a bit casual, not like they are participating in a coordinated attack. The equipment though looks legit and easy to use. Also easy to capture in a civil war in which the rebels have swept back and forth over large parts of the country. It would seem to greatly weaken the assertion by numerous mongers that 'only the Syrian army <strong><em>could</em></strong> have done it'. This is a case where the fog of war could easily mislead as to who [apparently] released the fog of gas.<br />  Reports are that U.S. pushed for inspections and that Syria agreed to UN inspectors one day after official request by UN. Next day the US said too late, five days after attack the evidence would be too degraded plus we already know who did it. Lock and load, heroes.</p> <p><a href="http://www.wnd.com/2013/08/video-shows-rebels-launching-gas-attack-in-syria/">http://www.wnd.com/2013/08/video-shows-rebels-launching-gas-attack-in-sy...</a></p> <h1 class="entry_title"> In Rush to Strike Syria, U.S. Tried to Derail U.N. Probe</h1> <p><a href="http://www.ipsnews.net/2013/08/in-rush-to-strike-syria-u-s-tried-to-derail-u-n-probe/">http://www.ipsnews.net/2013/08/in-rush-to-strike-syria-u-s-tried-to-dera...</a></p> <p>More arguments against the government's case.</p> <p><a href="http://www.moonofalabama.org/">http://www.moonofalabama.org/</a></p> </div></div></div> Thu, 29 Aug 2013 15:09:29 +0000 A Guy Called LULU comment 183122 at http://dagblog.com And I noted that Obama, on http://dagblog.com/comment/183116#comment-183116 <a id="comment-183116"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/183114#comment-183114">State Dept Admits It Doesn&#039;t</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>And  I noted that Obama, on <em>PBS Newshour</em> this evening, was careful to point only to "the Syrian government" for responsibility:</p> <blockquote> <p><a href="http://Obama: No decision yet on launching Syria military strike">Obama: No decision yet on launching Syria military strike</a></p> <p>USA Today, 11:21 p.m. EDT August 28, 2013</p> <p>[....] The president made clear that he is certain that Assad's team was responsible for the Aug. 21 strike on the outskirts of Damascus.</p> <p>"We have looked at all the evidence, and we do not believe the opposition possessed nuclear weapons on – or chemical weapons of that sort," Obama said. "We do not believe that, given the delivery systems, using rockets, that the opposition could have carried out these attacks. We have concluded that the Syrian government in fact carried these out. And if that's so, then there need to be international consequences."[....]</p> </blockquote> <p> </p> </div></div></div> Thu, 29 Aug 2013 03:29:41 +0000 artappraiser comment 183116 at http://dagblog.com State Dept Admits It Doesn't http://dagblog.com/comment/183114#comment-183114 <a id="comment-183114"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/183089#comment-183089">Here is more from two other</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><blockquote> <p><a href="http://thecable.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2013/08/28/state_dept_admits_it_doesnt_know_who_in_the_syrian_govt_ordered_chemical_strike">State Dept Admits It Doesn't Know Who Ordered Syria's Chemical Strike</a><br /> Posted By Elias Groll, <em>The Cable</em> @ ForeignPolicy.com, August 28, 2013</p> <p>With the United States barreling toward a strike on Syria, U.S. officials say they are completely certain that Bashar al-Assad's government is responsible for last week's chemical weapons attack. They just don't know who in the Syrian government is to blame.</p> <p>On Wednesday, State Department spokeswoman Marie Harf <a href="http://www.state.gov/r/pa/prs/dpb/2013/08/213585.htm" target="_blank">admitted</a> as much. "The commander-in-chief of any military is ultimately responsible for decisions made under their leadership, even if ... he's not the one that pushes the button or said, 'Go,' on this," Harf said. "I don't know what the facts are here. I'm just, broadly speaking, saying that he is responsible for the actions of his regime. I'm not intimately familiar with the command and control structure of the Syrian military. I'm just not. But again, he is responsible ultimately for the decisions that are made."</p> <p>On Tuesday, <i>The Cable</i> <a href="http://thecable.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2013/08/27/exclusive_us_spies_say_intercepted_calls_prove_syrias_army_used_nerve_gas" target="_blank">reported</a> that U.S. officials are basing their assessment that the Assad regime bears responsibility for the strike largely on an intercepted phone call between a panicked Ministry of Defense official and a commander of a Syrian chemical weapons unit. But that intelligence does not resolve the question of who in the government ordered the strike or what kind of command and control structures are in place for the use of such weapons. "It's unclear where control lies," one U.S. intelligence official told <i>The Cable </i>Tuesday. "Is there just some sort of general blessing to use these things? Or are there explicit orders for each attack?" </p> <p>Because of that lack of clarity, Harf took a beating on Wednesday. In a testy exchange during her daily briefing [....]</p> </blockquote> <p>Weds. State Dept. Press briefing transcript is here:</p> <p><a href="http://www.state.gov/r/pa/prs/dpb/2013/08/213585.htm">http://www.state.gov/r/pa/prs/dpb/2013/08/213585.htm</a></p> </div></div></div> Thu, 29 Aug 2013 02:42:43 +0000 artappraiser comment 183114 at http://dagblog.com Command confusion, http://dagblog.com/comment/183093#comment-183093 <a id="comment-183093"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/183089#comment-183089">Here is more from two other</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Command confusion, miscalculation, and not knowing what the hell they are doing has always been 'business as usual' for Arab regimes.</p> </div></div></div> Wed, 28 Aug 2013 15:48:44 +0000 NCD comment 183093 at http://dagblog.com On NPR this AM, some fellow http://dagblog.com/comment/183091#comment-183091 <a id="comment-183091"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/183089#comment-183089">Here is more from two other</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>On NPR this AM, some fellow named Crook was claiming that the rebels fired the rockets as a false flag op. He seemed to have a pro-Assad agenda, though.</p> </div></div></div> Wed, 28 Aug 2013 13:34:05 +0000 Donal comment 183091 at http://dagblog.com