dagblog - Comments for "Fort Hood shooting trial: Jury gives Nidal Hasan death penalty" http://dagblog.com/link/fort-hood-shooting-trial-jury-gives-nidal-hasan-death-penalty-17339 Comments for "Fort Hood shooting trial: Jury gives Nidal Hasan death penalty" en Nidal Hasan's beard shaved http://dagblog.com/comment/183429#comment-183429 <a id="comment-183429"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/link/fort-hood-shooting-trial-jury-gives-nidal-hasan-death-penalty-17339">Fort Hood shooting trial: Jury gives Nidal Hasan death penalty</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><blockquote> <p><a href="http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/sep/04/nidal-hasan-beard-shaved-force">Nidal Hasan's beard shaved off by force</a></p> <p>Death row jailers dispense with concession that let army major keep facial hair during Fort Hood massacre court martial</p> <p><em>Associated Press</em> in Fort Leavenworth, theguardian.com, 4 September 2013</p> </blockquote> </div></div></div> Wed, 04 Sep 2013 06:08:11 +0000 artappraiser comment 183429 at http://dagblog.com Today before this sentence http://dagblog.com/comment/183115#comment-183115 <a id="comment-183115"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/link/fort-hood-shooting-trial-jury-gives-nidal-hasan-death-penalty-17339">Fort Hood shooting trial: Jury gives Nidal Hasan death penalty</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Today before this sentence came down, Hendrik Hertzberg published a very interesting essay @ NewYorker.com about ironic way the military justice system worked as to the two recent major military homicide cases where there was never any doubt about guilt:</p> <p><a href="http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/comment/2013/08/crime-and-punishment-military-style-robert-bales-and-nidal-malik-hasan.html">Crime and Punishment, Military-Style</a></p> <p>He points out that it works that Robert Bales didn't want the death penalty, so he plead guilty to avoid it. While Nidal Hasan wanted the death penalty, so he plead not guilty to avoid the death penalty being precluded.</p> <p>Further ironies are that the Afghan families of Bales' victims are upset that he did not get the death penalty, while many of Hasan's victims and families wanted to see life in prison rather than Hasan getting a death he desires as a martyred jihadi.</p> <p>Hertzberg then points out a third case</p> <blockquote> <p>[....] Sergeant Hasan Karim Akbar, né Mark Fidel Kools, is also Muslim. He is an African-American whose parents changed his name when they converted to Islam. He kills two American soldiers. He gets death.</p> <p>To sum up where we seem to be headed, as it is apt to be seen in many parts of the world:</p> <ul><li> <p>One dark-skinned Muslim with an Arab name kills two American soldiers. He is put to death.</p> <p>A second dark-skinned Muslim with an Arab name kills thirteen American soldiers. He, too, is put to death.</p> </li> <li> <p>A white Christian-American soldier kills sixteen Muslim civilians—three men, four women, nine children. His life is spared [....]</p> </li> </ul></blockquote> <p>He then points out that</p> <blockquote> <p>For an American soldier to be executed, the sentence of death has to be personally affirmed by the President of the United States.</p> </blockquote> <p>and ponders the international and national political ramifications of having to make that decision and presumes Obama will have to make it. But the <em>Daily News</em> article makes it sound like Obama will be long gone as commander-in-chief by the time appeals are over for Hasan. I am wondering which is right, if there is some way Hasan can avoid the appeals?</p> <p>(Gary Gilmore comes to mind, though not a military trial....)</p> </div></div></div> Thu, 29 Aug 2013 03:18:24 +0000 artappraiser comment 183115 at http://dagblog.com