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Guess I wasn't clear: can't

artappraiser — Thu, 19 Sep 2013 22:37:17 +0000

In reply to War In Context has it in two

Guess I wasn't clear: can't watch it on the internet because an hour of video would cause me big overage fees on my monthly internet which is cellular (video uses a ton of bandwith.) I watch only short video clips on the internet; I watch TV from the cable box.

Anyhow, I read the transcript and agree they did a good job. I introduced it with an "oh boy" because it seemed that Fox pundits would have a hard time spinning the results acccording to their preferences. I am actually more interested in seeing some of their interpretation of it, how they are spinning it to their many viewers.

War In Context has it in two

Anonymous LULU — Thu, 19 Sep 2013 20:41:21 +0000

In reply to I haven't watched it because

War In Context has it in two 30 minute segments. Sorry, log-in problems prevent a link but just scroll down. Right now Paul Woodward whose site it is has a piece at the top more critical of the interview than I was/am. The interview by Kucinich and Fox Foreign Affairs Correspondent Greg Palkot was certainly more probing and insistent than any I have seen an American President sit for.

Whether you choose to watch it or not you might be interested in that article which also goes to commentary on Elizabeth O'Bagy whom I have paid very little attention to and so have close to zero opinion of.

Senior Foreign Affairs Correspondent Greg Palkot

I haven't watched it because

artappraiser — Thu, 19 Sep 2013 15:53:13 +0000

In reply to Oh boy, indeed. I am curious

I haven't watched it because I have to ration the videos on my internet service and wasn't able to watch it on Fox TV. I searched for a transcript and found every place pointing to this one furnished by the Syrian news agency:

http://sana.sy/eng/21/2013/09/19/503275.htm

Can't easily find one at Fox, they appear to only be up to the date of Sept.17. One would think the Syrian News Agency isn't so stupid as to alter anything in an English version.

Oh boy, indeed. I am curious

A Guy Called LULU — Thu, 19 Sep 2013 14:17:43 +0000

In reply to Assad pleased with Fox News &

Oh boy, indeed. I am curious as to whether you [or anyone who might choose to answer the same question] have actually watched the interview and if so, how do you judge it regarding both the interviewees questions and Assad's responses? Was it a puff piece for Assad which offered only soft-ball questions which allowed him easy opportunities for defense and self-promotion or did you see an effort to pin him down to firm positions and commitments? Did you see any value in the interview?

Win-win for Fox and Kucinich.

Bruce Levine — Thu, 19 Sep 2013 11:33:51 +0000

In reply to It's a sad day when Dennis

Win-win for Fox and Kucinich. He has a platform and Fox can portray Kucinich as a typical person who doesn't salivate for what Sean Hannity has to say. Clever in a disturbing kind of way.

It's a sad day when Dennis

Aaron Carine — Thu, 19 Sep 2013 11:02:42 +0000

In reply to Assad pleased with Fox News &

It's a sad day when Dennis Kucinich, who I voted for in 2004, says such things.

Assad pleased with Fox News &

artappraiser — Thu, 19 Sep 2013 02:57:49 +0000

In reply to Border tensions flare as Turkey shoots down Syrian helicopter

Assad pleased with Fox News & Dennis Kucinich, oh boy:

Syria Releases Video of Fox News Interview With Assad
By Robert Mackey, The Lede @ nytimes.com

President Bashar al-Assad’s office, which promoted his “television dialogue” with the Fox News contributor Dennis Kucinich online before the channel even acknowledged that it had taken place, posted video of the complete interview on its YouTube channel as soon as the broadcast began Wednesday night.

[EMBEDDED VIDEO]

At one point, Mr. Assad defended the use of force to put down the uprising against his rule, which has led to tens of thousands of deaths, by comparing it to the use of soldiers and Marines to quell rioting in Los Angeles in 1992. “What did you do in Los Angeles in the ’90s, when you had rebels?” he said. “Didn’t you send your army? You did.”

Further detail and updates on the whole shebang in another Lede post here:

Assad's Office Promotes Fox News Interview with Kucinich

Al-Qaeda linked group seizes

artappraiser — Thu, 19 Sep 2013 02:48:12 +0000

In reply to Border tensions flare as Turkey shoots down Syrian helicopter

Al-Qaeda linked group seizes complete control of Syrian border town with Turkey: Activists
Agence France Presse in Beirut, Sept. 18, 2013

An Al-Qaeda front group fighting in Syria on Sept. 18 overran the northern town of Azaz near the border with Turkey after fierce clashes with rebels, activists told AFP.

"The Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIS) has seized complete control of Azaz. They are in control of the town's entrances," said Abu Ahmad, an activist inside the town. Another activist, a resident of the border town, confirmed the report. "ISIS are in full control. They are detaining people from their homes, and they are manning all the checkpoints," he told AFP via the Internet, speaking on condition of anonymity.

The development comes amid increasing reports of fighting in northern Syria between ISIS and non-jihadist rebels vying to bring down President Bashar al-Assad's regime.

In a sign that Syria's conflict has grown highly localised in recent months, ISIS has fought side by side with rebels against government troops in other areas of the country.

In Azaz, reports emerged of continuing clashes [....]

Ankara denies accusations of providing arms to extremist groups in Syria
Hurriyet Daily News, Sept. 18, 2013

Ankara has denied Sept. 18 claims that Turkey was handing weapons over to the al-Qaeda-linked al-Nusra Front as well as the jihadist Ahrar al-Sham groups.

“We do not lend any direct support to al-Nusra or any other groups. The only contact point for Turkey is the Syrian National Council,” Turkish diplomatic sources told the Hürriyet Daily News, recalling that Foreign Minister Ahmet Davutoğlu had several times stated this position of Turkey regarding the anti-regime groups in Syria.

The claims were brought up by the Syrian Kurdish leader Saleh Muslim in an interview with daily Taraf published on Sept. 18 [....]

Oops. So why are you guys

artappraiser — Thu, 19 Sep 2013 02:36:15 +0000

In reply to Syria admitting a border

Oops. So why are you guys arguing about where it might have been hit by where it fell? Once someone breaks into airspace, and they don't answer you, you are supposed to wait and see if they do it again, give them a Mulligan? Is there a number of times they are allowed to weave back and forth, play cat and mouse?

Syria admitting a border

A Guy Called LULU — Thu, 19 Sep 2013 02:04:17 +0000

In reply to You guys can stop arguing now

Syria admitting a border violation is not a new development. You might have missed this from your original link:

The Syrians claim that the chopper was “heading back” after it had mistakenly entered Turkish airspace.

That statement is an admission of the airspace violation and was made very soon after the shoot-down occurred. I noted that in my first comment when I said:
"While Syria apparently admits a violation of Turkish airspace, ..."