dagblog - Comments for "The Shadow Commander (of the Quds Force of Iran, Qassem Suleimani )" http://dagblog.com/link/shadow-commander-quds-force-iran-qassem-suleimani-17515 Comments for "The Shadow Commander (of the Quds Force of Iran, Qassem Suleimani )" en Axis of evil speech was a http://dagblog.com/comment/185893#comment-185893 <a id="comment-185893"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/184447#comment-184447">Hidden away on pages 5-6,</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Axis of evil speech was a disaster:</p> <blockquote> <p><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2013/11/04/opinion/talk-to-iran-it-works.html">Talk to Iran, It Works</a><br /> Guest op-ed by Ryan C. Crocker (former United States ambassador to Afghanistan and Iraq)<br /><em>New York Times, </em>Nov. 3/4, 2013</p> <p>[....] Immediately after 9/11, while serving in the State Department, I sat down with Iranian diplomats to discuss next steps in Afghanistan. Back then, we had a common enemy, the Taliban and its Al Qaeda associates, and both governments thought it was worth exploring whether we could cooperate.</p> <p itemprop="articleBody">The Iranians were constructive, pragmatic and focused, at one point they even produced an extremely valuable map showing the Taliban’s order of battle just before American military action began.</p> <p itemprop="articleBody">They were also strong proponents of taking action in Afghanistan. We met through the remaining months of 2001 in different locations, and Iranian-American agreement at the Bonn Conference on Afghanistan was central to establishing the Afghan Interim Authority, headed by Hamid Karzai, now the president of Afghanistan.</p> <p itemprop="articleBody">I continued to hold talks with the Iranians in Kabul when I was sent to reopen the United States Embassy there. We forged agreements on various security issues and coordinated approaches to reconstruction. And then, suddenly, it all came to an end when President George W. Bush gave his famous “Axis of Evil” speech in early 2002. The Iranian leadership concluded that in spite of their cooperation with the American war effort, the United States remained implacably hostile to the Islamic Republic.</p> <p itemprop="articleBody">Real cooperation effectively ceased after the speech and the costs were immediate. At the time, we were in the process of negotiating the transfer of the notorious Afghan warlord, Gulbuddin Hekmatyar, from Iranian house arrest to Afghan custody and ultimately to American control. Instead, the Iranians facilitated his covert entry into Afghanistan where he remains at large, launching attacks on coalition and Afghan targets.</p> <p>I had another set of negotiations with Iranian diplomats when I was ambassador to Iraq in 2007. [.....]</p> </blockquote> </div></div></div> Mon, 04 Nov 2013 08:29:15 +0000 artappraiser comment 185893 at http://dagblog.com If any of those clips aren't http://dagblog.com/comment/184458#comment-184458 <a id="comment-184458"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/link/shadow-commander-quds-force-iran-qassem-suleimani-17515">The Shadow Commander (of the Quds Force of Iran, Qassem Suleimani )</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>If any of those clips aren't enough to entice, here's another. Page 8, on the Iraq war during the end of the Bush presidency and the beginning of Obama's:</p> <blockquote> <p>As the covert war with Iran intensified, American officials considered crossing into Iran to attack training camps and bomb factories. “Some of us wanted very badly to hit them,” a senior American officer who was in Iraq at the time told me. Those debates lasted well into 2011, until the last American soldiers left the country. Each time, the Americans decided against crossing the border, figuring that it would be too easy for the Iranians to escalate the fighting.</p> <p>Around the same time, Suleimani struck up a correspondence with senior American officials, sending messages through intermediaries—sometimes seeking to reassure the Americans, sometimes to extract something. One of the first came in early 2008, when the Iraqi President, Jalal Talabani, handed a cell phone with a text message to General David Petraeus, who had taken over the year before as the commander of American forces. “Dear General Petraeus,” the text read, “you should know that I, Qassem Suleimani, control the policy for Iran with respect to Iraq, Lebanon, Gaza and Afghanistan. And indeed, the ambassador in Baghdad is a Quds Force member. The individual who’s going to replace him is a Quds Force member.” After the five American soldiers were killed in Karbala, Suleimani sent a message to the American Ambassador. “I swear on the grave of Khomeini I haven’t authorized a bullet against the U.S.,” Suleimani said. None of the Americans believed him.</p> In a report to the White House, Petraeus wrote that Suleimani was “truly evil.” Yet at times the two men were all but negotiating. According to diplomatic cables revealed by WikiLeaks [....]</blockquote> </div></div></div> Tue, 24 Sep 2013 03:46:29 +0000 artappraiser comment 184458 at http://dagblog.com On page 3, on the plot http://dagblog.com/comment/184448#comment-184448 <a id="comment-184448"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/link/shadow-commander-quds-force-iran-qassem-suleimani-17515">The Shadow Commander (of the Quds Force of Iran, Qassem Suleimani )</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>On page 3, on the plot against the Saudi ambassador:</p> <blockquote> <p>Since then, Suleimani has orchestrated attacks in places as far flung as Thailand, New Delhi, Lagos, and Nairobi—at least thirty attempts in the past two years alone. The most notorious was a scheme, in 2011, to hire a Mexican drug cartel to blow up the Saudi Ambassador to the United States as he sat down to eat at a restaurant a few miles from the White House. The cartel member approached by Suleimani’s agent turned out to be an informant for the U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration. (The Quds Force appears to be more effective close to home, and a number of the remote plans have gone awry.) Still, <strong>after the plot collapsed, two former American officials told a congressional committee that Suleimani should be assassinated.</strong> “Suleimani travels a lot,” one said. “He is all over the place. Go get him. Either try to capture him or kill him.” In Iran, more than two hundred dignitaries signed an outraged letter in his defense; a social-media campaign proclaimed, “We are all Qassem Suleimani.”<br />  </p> </blockquote> </div></div></div> Tue, 24 Sep 2013 01:00:52 +0000 artappraiser comment 184448 at http://dagblog.com Hidden away on pages 5-6, http://dagblog.com/comment/184447#comment-184447 <a id="comment-184447"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/link/shadow-commander-quds-force-iran-qassem-suleimani-17515">The Shadow Commander (of the Quds Force of Iran, Qassem Suleimani )</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Hidden away on pages 5-6, there's this blockbuster on George Bush and the"axis of evil" speech, how horribly stupid it really was :</p> <blockquote> <p>In the chaotic days after the attacks of September 11th, Ryan Crocker, then a senior State Department official, flew discreetly to Geneva to meet a group of Iranian diplomats. “I’d fly out on a Friday and then back on Sunday, so nobody in the office knew where I’d been,” Crocker told me. “We’d stay up all night in those meetings.” <strong>It seemed clear to Crocker that the Iranians were answering to Suleimani, whom they referred to as “Haji Qassem,” and that they were eager to help the United States destroy their mutual enemy, the Taliban.</strong> Although the United States and Iran broke off diplomatic relations in 1980, after American diplomats in Tehran were taken hostage, Crocker wasn’t surprised to find that Suleimani was flexible. “You don’t live through eight years of brutal war without being pretty pragmatic,” he said. Sometimes Suleimani passed messages to Crocker, but he avoided putting anything in writing. “Haji Qassem’s way too smart for that,” Crocker said. “He’s not going to leave paper trails for the Americans.”<br /><br /><strong>Before the bombing began, Crocker sensed that the Iranians were growing impatient with the Bush Administration, thinking that it was taking too long to attack the Taliban. </strong>At a meeting in early October, 2001, the lead Iranian negotiator stood up and slammed a sheaf of papers on the table. “If you guys don’t stop building these fairy-tale governments in the sky, and actually start doing some shooting on the ground, none of this is ever going to happen!” he shouted. “When you’re ready to talk about serious fighting, you know where to find me.” He stomped out of the room. “It was a great moment,” Crocker said.<br /><br /> The coöperation between the two countries lasted through the initial phase of the war. At one point, the lead negotiator handed Crocker a map detailing the disposition of Taliban forces. “Here’s our advice: hit them here first, and then hit them over here. And here’s the logic.” Stunned, Crocker asked, “Can I take notes?” The negotiator replied, “You can keep the map.” The flow of information went both ways. On one occasion, Crocker said, he gave his counterparts the location of an Al Qaeda facilitator living in the eastern city of Mashhad. The Iranians detained him and brought him to Afghanistan’s new leaders, who, Crocker believes, turned him over to the U.S. The negotiator told Crocker, “Haji Qassem is very pleased with our coöperation.”<br /><br /> The good will didn’t last. In January, 2002, Crocker, who was by then the deputy chief of the American Embassy in Kabul, was awakened one night by aides, who told him that President George W. Bush, in his State of the Union Address, had named Iran as part of an “Axis of Evil.” Like many senior diplomats, Crocker was caught off guard. He saw the negotiator the next day at the U.N. compound in Kabul, and he was furious. “You completely damaged me,” Crocker recalled him saying. “Suleimani is in a tearing rage. He feels compromised.” The negotiator told Crocker that, at great political risk, Suleimani had been contemplating a complete reëvaluation of the United States, saying, “Maybe it’s time to rethink our relationship with the Americans.” <strong>The Axis of Evil speech brought the meetings to an end. Reformers inside the government, who had advocated a rapprochement with the United States, were put on the defensive. Recalling that time, Crocker shook his head. “We were just that close,” he said. “One word in one speech changed history.”</strong></p> </blockquote> </div></div></div> Tue, 24 Sep 2013 00:57:23 +0000 artappraiser comment 184447 at http://dagblog.com