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I am just watching that clip

trkingmomoe — Fri, 04 Oct 2013 00:39:42 +0000

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I am just watching that clip now on Chris Hayes. What a ass!

I was at quilting tonight and many of the women are not happy with Republicans. They are worried about their retirement funds after this goes to default because they are retired. One lady said she is so tired of her husband listening all day to Fox. She said she made it clear to him that she didn't want to hear him repeat anything they say because they are lying. I was really surprised because she used to be a staunch Republicans. This stretch out and they take us into default the Republican Party is toast in 2014. Majority people see through this and growing tired of these games.

I just found out that a

rmrd0000 — Thu, 03 Oct 2013 20:56:42 +0000

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I just found out that a charity that I volunteer with has continued funding for meals for high risk kids through an arrangement with the USDA. Government workers are finding ways around the Tea Party terrorists in DC.

Eric Cantor and Republicans in Congress with health care backgrounds staged political theatre today. White coat wearing GOP legislators pleaded for funding for research trials for childhood cancers to continue, despite voting against the funding by supporting a government shutdown unless Democrats agreed not to fund a healthcare law. it makes your blood boil.

Thx

rmrd0000 — Thu, 03 Oct 2013 19:38:45 +0000

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Thx

Pell grants were funded in

trkingmomoe — Thu, 03 Oct 2013 19:15:12 +0000

In reply to I think that there are enough

Pell grants were funded in September to the colleges and they then sent the balance of the student grant to the student. My kids have other funding that pays for some of the school tuition and pell comes in last. They get what was not needed to use for other expenses. I don't know what will happen next semester. The pell grant was already cut for this school year because of the sequester. The kids got less money from the grant.

The afterschool program called 21st Century received their federal supper grant for the semester last month just before the end of the month. The kids will start getting supper now before they go home at night. This is a local program and someone was on their toes to get that grant in early. Many of these programs across the country were funded in monthly grants payments and those programs can no longer feed the kids. Many of these kids go hungry because they are from the working poor. My little ones are in 21st Century because the youngest one needed the tutoring and their mom found a part time job. It is a long day with out supper for this kids. Programs like this gives disadvantaged kids help with homework and a safe place to be until parents can pick them up. The youngest one has really improved in school because he speech teacher volunteers at the 4 day program. The older ones needed to be challenged because the gifted teacher was laid off this year because of cuts. The program is only 4 days a week after school. The poorer the population gets the more we need these kind of programs. Also if Rick Scott had not cut the hell out of the school budget, my kids would not need to be in that program.

Most of our grocery stores now have the baby formula under lock and key. You have to buy it in the front of the store at the tobacco counter. Women will steal to feed their babies.

I am seeing economic pain all over the place in my part of the world. Like you said where is the MSM to report these stories.

Shots fired near Hart

rmrd0000 — Thu, 03 Oct 2013 18:52:01 +0000

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Shots fired near Hart Building in DC

Fair enough, I see how my

A Guy Called LULU — Thu, 03 Oct 2013 18:48:21 +0000

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Fair enough, I see how my comment could be parsed as you do if you apply a literal meaning to the phrase, "all options are on the table", but the phrase has not been used in the way that the words literally mean. Instead it has been used as a threat by emphasizing that military action was on the table. Do what we demand and do it on our timetable or else.That could put the administration in a corner that would push it to use such action if it did not get its way entirely whether that action was actually the smartest thing to do or not when the deadline came up. Similarly, threats by the Tea Party faction have backed them into a corner and pushed them to act in a dumb way and may well push them to continue doing so with the affect of more damage to come.

Being an ideologue about something is the problem in both cases, and that is all they have in common

Being ideologues is not quite all they have in common. What I said is that they also have in common their propensity towards bluster and threats as a tactic to advance their ideology. While Farrell's quote is about the Syria red line, I was actually thinking about threats to Iran. In the case of Syria, Obama did not threaten an attack after the red line was seen to be crossed in a big way, he said to them and the world that he intended a punitive attack, his mind was made up. It was no longer a threat intended to coerce compliance. Then serendipitous events changed everything but not before it was evident the situation where the hard line threats had put him.

A wingnut Congress critter

rmrd0000 — Thu, 03 Oct 2013 18:19:44 +0000

In reply to Charlie Pierce's Brilliant Take on The Electeds out to Destroy our Government. We Did This. (Well, not ME)

A wingnut Congress critter from Texas tried to embarrass a Park Ranger at the WWII Memorial for refusing to allow public entry to the monument. He blamed Harry Reid for the shutdown. Members of the crowd came to the defense of the Park Ranger who was merely doing her job. Most of the public isn't being fooled by the GOP despite media taking a more non-accusatory role.

Comparing efforts to prevent

NCD — Thu, 03 Oct 2013 17:57:28 +0000

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Comparing efforts to prevent a nation in civil war from using nerve gas against civilians, and circumspection about the outcome of entering that war, and the nonsense that goes on with the nutjobs of the idiot wing of the GOP, is like equating grenades and apples, or suicide bombers and circus clowns.

I think that there are enough

rmrd0000 — Thu, 03 Oct 2013 17:43:57 +0000

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I think that there are enough people hurting that the GOP will suffer. MSM , especially DC media stopped focusing on the average citizen long ago. Assaults on the public are generally not covered. MSM spends more time covering werking than the assault on reproductive choice. Not covering lack of diapers and formula is not surprising.

Are checks for students receiving financial aid still going out? Beats me. I rely on MSM for info. The news is the last to find what the public is feeling.

Your comment makes no sense

artappraiser — Thu, 03 Oct 2013 17:27:32 +0000

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Your comment makes no sense to me (while Henry Farrell's essay to which your refer does make sense, very much so.) Seems to me that you as twisting things illogically in order to see equivalencies where there are none, make them fit some kind of narrative of a big, ordered picture. As if you fixated on the lemming image and did something along the lines of "everything's about lemmingness." Or something. It really is hard to make sense of what you are trying to say.

"All options are on the table" is how anyone with good will toward negotiation properly approaches a negotiation table!

Saying "Use of chemical weapons is a red line" is quite different, it's limiting your options! And it's based on a firm ideological belief that chemical weapons should not be tolerated.

Being an ideologue about something is the problem in both cases, and that is all they have in common. People who are open to all options are not at all the same problem, even if one of the options implied is something you might not like.