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Hint: Don't chase after every

Resistance — Tue, 08 Oct 2013 23:58:26 +0000

Hint: Don't chase after every barking DOG.

Even today, Obama again stated "EVERYTHING" is on the table for discussion. Why is SS and Medicare on the table?

SS and Medicare is everything to us and it should never be on the table, as a bargaining chip. We don't need to open any doors of opportunities, to diminish the good it does.

It is an entitlement, because we are entitled to it, because WE paid for it

These Congress critters need to keep their greedy hands off of it.

END OF DISCUSSION.

As for your opinion or observations, If It walks like a duck and quacks like a duck who could blame you, if in your opinion you believe it is a duck.

Of course he didn't, because

tmccarthy0 — Tue, 08 Oct 2013 22:59:48 +0000

In reply to Did you even look at the link

Of course he didn't, because hey, he believes it, so to him that makes it factual! LOL... He is just like every extremist out there, he believes it so it must be true, facts don't matter at all, the only thing that matters is what he believes.

You say in your opinion this

tmccarthy0 — Tue, 08 Oct 2013 22:57:26 +0000

In reply to Since we have gotten off

You say in your opinion this is Obama's Grand Bargain for his legacy, but since it is your opinion it is simple as hell to refute as you have presented 0, zero evidence to this so called fact, but which is only your opinion. There is a difference, proof must include actual evidence, you have presented zero evidence, and the other, which includes no evidence, is just you making shit up.

I'll be back later, after work to refute you point by point.. oh wait, you have no point at all except that you believe this, so in that case, I dont have to come back. You refuted yourself by offering no actual evidence.

Since we have gotten off

Peter — Tue, 08 Oct 2013 22:32:02 +0000

In reply to Shutdown=GOP 1% Cabal for 'Grand Bargain' Cuts

Since we have gotten off topic here I'll state once more that the "Grand Bargain" is Obama's plan for our future and his Legacy. Would anyone care to refute that claim? Everyone is entitled to their own opinion but not their own facts. The renewed interest in this old story about the Fundies of the Right is just more Liberal hysteria to stir up the base for the coming election season IMHO. The Conservative elite use and manipulate the Christian Right to further their own agendas, does anyone remember the Abramov , David Duke scandal?

Well, my tribes married one

EmmaZahn — Tue, 08 Oct 2013 18:18:21 +0000

In reply to Naturally, if you haven't

Well, my tribes married one another so I guess they loved each other at some point. But that was sometime in the 17th or 18th century when whites were a definite minority and were massacred fairly regularly by the natives. I am really quite proud of them, survivors all, but especially so of those who survived the tempest.

All readers might find this

Resistance — Tue, 08 Oct 2013 17:45:54 +0000

In reply to Shutdown=GOP 1% Cabal for 'Grand Bargain' Cuts

All readers might find this information about Section 4 of the 14th amendment useful.

http://finance.fortune.cnn.com/2013/10/07/why-the-14th-amendment-matters-in-the-debt-ceiling-crisis/?hpt=hp_t1

Naturally, if you haven't

artappraiser — Tue, 08 Oct 2013 17:36:31 +0000

In reply to Yeah, but it shouldn't.

Naturally, if you haven't always followed the love your neighbor as yourself thingie, it's very frightening to think about the possibility that what your tribe did to dominate other tribes may start turning back on you.

Did you even look at the link

artappraiser — Tue, 08 Oct 2013 17:27:33 +0000

In reply to Did you read the next to last

Did you even look at the link oceankat gave? It's answering your comment, it just contradicts what you're saying. Among the" key findings" is stuff like They think they are losing ground and Obama has won his socialist agenda and Obama is big government--but much bigger--they believe he is building dependent minorities that will give Democrats a governing majority.

Again the republicans are not

ocean-kat — Tue, 08 Oct 2013 17:15:17 +0000

In reply to Did you read the next to last

Again the republicans are not some monolithic group. As I pointed out the tea party republicans didn't like the stimulus or the bail outs for bankers. Might be some wall street republicans will say they like it in private but not the majority of republicans.

A majority of republicans think Obama's foreign policy is a failure. It may not be fair but they do blame him for the deaths in Benghazi as well as what they see as a cover up after and the failure of the Arab spring. They see his stumbling over his red line in Syria as incompetence.

Any tax reductions during Obama's first term is credited to republicans winning the fight, not that Obama did what they wanted. The tax increases are blamed on Obama and republicans don't like them.

Its just silly to claim that republicans like what Obama has done. They may not understand the whole story, they may be confused or manipulated, but most republicans are clear about what they think. Unless you're claiming that every republican constantly lies when they are polled.

Yeah, but it shouldn't.

EmmaZahn — Tue, 08 Oct 2013 17:00:58 +0000

In reply to Many Republicans are also

Yeah, but it shouldn't. Whites have never been the majority of the world's population and yet....