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This is more a case of the

Verified Atheist — Mon, 18 Nov 2013 13:16:33 +0000

In reply to same lady who advocated

This is more a case of the meh is the enemy of the good.

Mainly what comes to mind for

artappraiser — Fri, 15 Nov 2013 22:54:06 +0000

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Mainly what comes to mind for me is that irritation with the views and attitudes of the bourgeoisie is nothing new.

She like most people is one

PeraclesPlease — Thu, 14 Nov 2013 22:08:13 +0000

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She like most people is one breast cancer or car concussion away from financial and emotional disaster. no, she doesnt owe us a disclaimer about how good shes got it in the us o' a. i agree with AA on the 99% - we almost had a unity movement.

I agree with you about

Michael Maiello — Thu, 14 Nov 2013 21:08:47 +0000

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I agree with you about alienating such people. But I also think that people should make honest arguments. Gottlieb turns herself into a character (prototypical working single mother) in order to leave people with the impression that Obama is taking health care away from such people, or making it impossible for them to feed their children. It's just not so. A better argument for her might have been, "I do all right. If I accidentally under-insure I am in a better position than most to be able to make up the shortfall."

I was never one to find

artappraiser — Thu, 14 Nov 2013 21:07:08 +0000

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I was never one to find making class war points as an interesting op-ed topic. (I will admit that I tend to go for the pushers of rising-tide-lifts-all-boats memes.)

There's really only one thing I would like to point out after reading this whole thread, which I did reluctantly. I vaguely remember something about one of the original Obama campaign's main strategies: not to alienate the $150/200K-a-year crowd. And that doing that helped him win the presidency. Even though he was a black guy with the name Barack Hussein Obama and had no executive experience and there was a threat of a major worldwide depression.

Edit to add: Only a short while ago, people like her were included as part of "the 99%." Whatever happened to that meme?

same lady who advocated

Anonymous pp — Thu, 14 Nov 2013 19:28:04 +0000

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same lady who advocated marrying whatever schmuck you happen to be currently dating

"The perfect is enemy of the good"?

Uh, I think she just gave a

Anonymous pp — Thu, 14 Nov 2013 15:55:44 +0000

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Uh, I think she just gave a point of view from a mid-40's single mom who wished she had been less picky and would have more contentment being with the non-perfect man than being alone.

I knew one woman who's love-of-her-life died when she was younger. She married someone else and was with him for decades but was open about her 2nd husband not being the peak that her childhood sweetie was - but they had a nice long-lasting relationship with that acceptance.

Anyway, I don't think it's really a guy's turf to be criticizing women for trying to find the balance of home and work over the last 40 years. In 95% of the cases they guy wasn't going to take care of the home bit anyway. [yes, that's an Anna writing that article, but she doesn't seem to have read even the Atlantic piece. Oh, and her presumption that dumping her health care after her kid might be a little off-base if Gottlieb's insurance didn't pay for in vitro fertilization, which I doubt it did. And the "doesn't let her keep the plan she likes"? her new plan doesn't let her keep even her doctors or hospital. In short, a glib one-off op-ed on a slow day, mixing with Richard Cohen. What-ever, it's just a pile on - everyone will feel grand at drinks tonight.

Poll: Who's the More Horrible

Donal — Thu, 14 Nov 2013 14:06:30 +0000

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Poll: Who's the More Horrible Media Troll, Richard Cohen or Lori Gottlieb?

It's been quite a week for people writing what appear to be deliberately stupid editorials, but then, isn't it always? Earlier this week, the internet was in an uproar over Richard Cohen, Washington Post columnist and musty old bigot, who finds a new way to bum us out almost every Tuesday. ... And yet, try as he might, Cohen's entry into the Idiotic Editorial Hall of Fame doesn't totally eclipse this week's earlier entrant, Lori Gottlieb, who wrote a less openly offensive but in some ways, much more trollish op-ed in the New York Times on November 11. ... "Daring to Complain about Obamacare" is brought to you by the same lady who advocated marrying whatever schmuck you happen to be currently dating, since nothing is worse than dying old and alone and female.

Wow, how quaintly retro,

PeraclesPlease — Thu, 14 Nov 2013 13:47:56 +0000

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Wow, how quaintly retro, might as well be 1789 or the Paris communes 1871.

I remember this homeless guy pissed because I didn't give me a buck, and he looked jealously at my primer-no-paint-beat-up 20-year-old van I'd bought for $400: "I know where *you're* coming from".

Yeah, that bourgeoisie be living high on the hog, drinking up dem Starbucks lattés and cadillac health plans. To the Bastille!!!

#OccupyFernwood2Night

Nice blog, Michael---and oh

Oxy Mora — Thu, 14 Nov 2013 02:23:31 +0000

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Nice blog, Michael---and oh how I tried not to get hooked into this, I really tried, and nothing I say here will have been influenced by the the fact that I am divorced from an MFC in California which cost me dearly.

The requirement for an MFC in California is two years' master's level work---and 3000 hours supervision; the last time I checked, another MFC having met those qualifications can qualify as a supervisor. The MFC is not the same as a clinical psychologist or psychiatrist. Is it catty to mention that 1 in 10 women in California is either a real estate agent or an MFC?

100K a year? At $100 an hour, and I'd be surprised if it were that low, her practice is at best a half time job. Oh, that's right, all the parenting that must take place---as she explained in one article, she gives her kid forced choice questions.Great, right up there with telemarketing. I hope she remembers to deposit any cash which she may have received from non-insured clients---which leads me to what makes her article ( I dislike all her writing) so meaningless is that Obamacare will expand coverage for MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES for millions of people. So, assuming she has anything at all on the ball as a therapist, her practice and income should expand.

"Now let's see, Mr. Mora, where do you think the anger issues come from---your parents, or your ex-wife?"