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This is one of the finest

Richard Day — Sat, 27 Sep 2014 02:56:05 +0000

In reply to A lot to think about in this

This is one of the finest comments I have ever received. Ever.

Hell, almost a year later.

But damn, you have hit upon the real issues.

Not political ramblings, but real issues.

I mean we are not going to 'kill' ND's ability to make monies.

That is not just stupid, it is idiotic and provides us with no alternatives.

Your comment means more to me than just logic.

It hits me with a reality that I forget sometimes.

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You have a real take on this issue.

Supposedly we have a Constitution that protects states from ignoring the laws of other states.

And yet, we must acknowledge that due to nuisance and trespass, the civil law, that we must give the Feds the right to work it out.

This is fine comment that I kind of missedl

WHO DECIDES?

I think Progressives might

MrSmith1 — Sat, 14 Dec 2013 14:57:06 +0000

In reply to Yeah, that is the issue for

I think Progressives might need to take it up a couple of notches and set their hysteria on fear/panic the same way the Repubs do about almost everything. You know, that frothing-at-the-mouth, making-up-phony-scary-wedge issues level ... that way, they can drive the point home, and by targeting individual issues in individual states and keeping it up, they just might be able to create a new base of support that sees the benefits of the Feds acting for the good of all, and not leave some states reeling from the actions of their more craven neighboring states.

Yeah, that is the issue for

Richard Day — Sat, 14 Dec 2013 08:22:09 +0000

In reply to A lot to think about in this

Yeah, that is the issue for me.

That is, what one state does affects contiguous states.

What one municipality does affects other localities.

And who is to really arbitrate this mess?

The Feds.

That is all we have, in the end.

Again, Minnesota cannot just throw its excrement into the Mississippi or other rivers that flow into other states; without some regulation!

And as far as air pollution, well a system in the middle of some state will affect other municipalities or states with regard to the air others' breathe. ha

I do not have any answers as such.

I just see it coming, as it were.

How does one or any government handle this situation?

These are very difficult issues concerning employment and the safety of our citizenry and the purity of 'our' water and air and....

This is complicated.

And I just do not wish that these issues be settled by international corporations who could give one goddamn about our country.

the end

A lot to think about in this

MrSmith1 — Sat, 14 Dec 2013 07:40:57 +0000

In reply to I FEEL THE EARTH MOVE UNDER MY FEET

A lot to think about in this essay, DD. I spent 5 and a half years in Oklahoma when I was in college; a New Yorker in a strange land ... I used to laugh when it was pointed out that Oklahoma is the only state that has a working oil well on it's statehouse grounds.

The transition from one energy source to another is going to be fraught with problems, no matter which way we go. The transitions from whale oil to coal and from coal to petroleum all solved one problem and then created another. Supporting this many people on a finite planet takes an increasing amount of energy. We either figure out how to create new sources or we give up our current lifestyles .... and I'm willing to bet that that choice is going to be an easy one for the majority of people; They'll take their current lives over a few birds and nearly extinct animals any day ... Do you choose your sleep comfort bed or a rock in a cave? You can keep the eagles if you choose the rock. (I know, and I was fond of those eagles too ... but ...)

What also popped out at me from your essay was the fact that you may have found the key talking point for progressives to counter all that states right talk we've had to endure for a generation from the conservatives. Progressives could counter the argument for states' rights by setting each state against its neighbor; that is, remind them that the way to stop their neighboring states from making up some stupid laws which could have a devastating ecological effect on them is to have consistent laws which all states have to abide by. Only a strong central government can keep these individual rogue states in line. Just a thought for another discussion.

I hope you are doing well

trkingmomoe — Sat, 14 Dec 2013 05:33:12 +0000

In reply to You know, Mr. Day, whenever

I hope you are doing well this days. {{{Hug}}} Sending you warm and good wishes. We don't seem to fight hard enough for our environment.

You have multiplied my

Richard Day — Sat, 14 Dec 2013 04:43:49 +0000

In reply to You know, Mr. Day, whenever

You have multiplied my thoughts!

I miss you Flower. That is one thought.

Eagles!

Do you know I went into the northland about thirty years ago, maybe forty and I was trapped with a partner's child underneath a structure hoping that we would not be killed? hahahahahahah

The eagle just sat there.

And then, my dog and I would visit an eagle's nest every day for a year (they change nests anualy I guess) and dad would sit right there looking at me and my dog?

And I would see the eagles passing over the lake in this eden from time to time and really really wonder?

I read some tract about some company receiving some sort of reprieve with regard to the impending deaths of eagles. That is from the government.

This all has to do with the death of eagles related to wind energy.

The eagle is regal to me.

I have seen him up close (or her, since I am not that keen on eagle sex)

Anyway, my research demonstrates to me anyway, that Eagles are not on their way out just because of wind energy.

Oh, Flower I have missed you.

Good to see you again.

Eagles shall always be with us, and that is because they are so goddamn bright.

Eagles have always been sacred to me.

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You know, Mr. Day, whenever

wabby — Sat, 14 Dec 2013 04:05:59 +0000

In reply to I FEEL THE EARTH MOVE UNDER MY FEET

You know, Mr. Day, whenever someone starts giving me crap about the usefulness of wind energy, I just give them my best Indian Death Stare and say, "Well, Columbus got here with wind power, so what makes you think it can't turn on light bulbs all over the country?"

I haven't made any new friends in a long, long time.
I do get the turbine/bird problem. Bald eagles are just recently off the endangered list and it is painful for me to think of the eagles being churned to death just so we don't have to watch teevee in the dark.

But you know, wolves are just recently off the endangered list as well, and there are killers with guns who cannot wait to get a trophy. Those killers have no conflicts with their rationale. Ramona wrote about this a short while ago.

Here is my conundrum: If it is "okay" to kill a wolf so that you may decorate your home, why is not "okay" to kill an eagle to light your home?

My head is confused by this. So is my heart.

Please do not get me wrong. I do not wish to see any wolves or eagles killed for any reason. But then again, Mr. Day, we all can't live in my own little Native American world.

Progress must progress.

And some part of me believes that the eagles are willing to sacrifice a number of themselves in order to protect the water from being polluted by the oils humans indiscriminately dump that render the fish the eagles eat poisonous.

Quite a stretch of reasoning there, eh?

But, I believe it.

Non-humans will sacrifice themselves to preserve their species.

Eagles are not ruled by profit margins.

Wolves don't give a crap about the bottom line.

Humans are the only animals ruled by avarice.

Yes, there are days I rue being born hue-man.