dagblog - Comments for "GOP: To Fight for the Poor" http://dagblog.com/reader-blogs/gop-fight-poor-18049 Comments for "GOP: To Fight for the Poor" en Shredding the net into 50 http://dagblog.com/comment/188462#comment-188462 <a id="comment-188462"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/188461#comment-188461">The proof that the safety net</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Shredding the net into 50 'experiments' by 'block granting' it to the states will, as intended by the GOP:<br /> (1) expunge any federal culpability for what happens to the unemployed/homeless/sick/poor/disabled etc.</p> <p>(2) magically create 50 complicated programs, in 50 states, that academics and the Cato Institute and the AEI can study for years.  NPR/establishment media can discuss and argue the economic/tax/education/policy reasons why it all 'worked well' or 'saved money, reduced unemployment in some region of some state, while also arguing over what 'working well' means as opposed to 'failed miserably'.</p> <p>Any program like this is best done national standards set by the federal government, with clear objectives and accountability.</p> </div></div></div> Fri, 10 Jan 2014 17:15:24 +0000 NCD comment 188462 at http://dagblog.com The proof that the safety net http://dagblog.com/comment/188461#comment-188461 <a id="comment-188461"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/reader-blogs/gop-fight-poor-18049">GOP: To Fight for the Poor</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>  The proof that the safety net has not "failed miserably" is that the condition of the poor got worse as we destroyed the safety net (or much of it, anyway).</p> </div></div></div> Fri, 10 Jan 2014 13:42:56 +0000 Aaron Carine comment 188461 at http://dagblog.com Good article. Rubio is off on http://dagblog.com/comment/188410#comment-188410 <a id="comment-188410"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/188400#comment-188400">This Guardian piece basically</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Good article. Rubio is off on the usual 'blame the government, blame the victim' meme.</p> <p>The government safety net is the cause of those in it, so blow it up.  Scatter it across the states as block grants, which can then be used for other purposes than what was intended (like political payback/patronage/or tax cuts). Cuts to the grants can also then be done with little political accountability at the federal level.</p> </div></div></div> Thu, 09 Jan 2014 15:13:52 +0000 NCD comment 188410 at http://dagblog.com Rubio has been muttering this http://dagblog.com/comment/188411#comment-188411 <a id="comment-188411"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/188400#comment-188400">This Guardian piece basically</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Rubio has been muttering this crap for awhile here in Florida.  He has been insisting the war on poverty has failed.  It don't mean anything to the young people around here.  I think he is after the retirees that sit and watch Fox all day. Creating jobs and raising the minimum wage is more important to most in Florida. </p> </div></div></div> Thu, 09 Jan 2014 15:13:26 +0000 trkingmomoe comment 188411 at http://dagblog.com This Guardian piece basically http://dagblog.com/comment/188400#comment-188400 <a id="comment-188400"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/reader-blogs/gop-fight-poor-18049">GOP: To Fight for the Poor</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p><a href="http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jan/08/marco-rubio-war-on-poverty-reform-republicans">This Guardian piece</a> basically suggests it's all trial messaging 'cause <em>Stagnating social mobility expected to be central issue in 2014</em>. Why right this moment? Some Dems planned in advance to use the 50th anniversary of LBJ's speech for messaging, and those with aspirations to compete had to have some comeback ready. Again, looks like trial balloons, see what might work with the necessary voter groups...nearly guaranteed private polling is to follow.</p> </div></div></div> Thu, 09 Jan 2014 07:48:31 +0000 artappraiser comment 188400 at http://dagblog.com I do not know why but this http://dagblog.com/comment/188385#comment-188385 <a id="comment-188385"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/reader-blogs/gop-fight-poor-18049">GOP: To Fight for the Poor</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>I do not know why but this song:</p> <p> </p><div class="media_embed" height="315px" width="420px"> <iframe allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="315px" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/BAa72AiKV2M?rel=0" width="420px"></iframe></div> <p>This Rubio/Cruz crap is getting to me.</p> <p>Mandatory work.</p> <p>Hell, I have no problem with mandatory work.</p> <p>We all wish to work.</p> <p>But this idea does not work!</p> <p>hahahaha</p> <p>Where is the work?</p> <p>the end</p> <p> </p> </div></div></div> Thu, 09 Jan 2014 04:01:38 +0000 Richard Day comment 188385 at http://dagblog.com I want them to make $50 an http://dagblog.com/comment/188382#comment-188382 <a id="comment-188382"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/188381#comment-188381">Why do you hate the job</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>I want them to make <a href="http://www.dagblog.com/reader-blogs/minimum-wage-hell-no-maximum-wage-18033">$50 an hour too, after taxes. Fair?</a></p> </div></div></div> Thu, 09 Jan 2014 01:55:56 +0000 NCD comment 188382 at http://dagblog.com Why do you hate the job http://dagblog.com/comment/188381#comment-188381 <a id="comment-188381"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/reader-blogs/gop-fight-poor-18049">GOP: To Fight for the Poor</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Why do you hate the job creators??!!!</p> <p> </p> </div></div></div> Thu, 09 Jan 2014 01:39:02 +0000 jollyroger comment 188381 at http://dagblog.com