dagblog - Comments for "Common traits bind Jews and Chinese " http://dagblog.com/link/common-traits-bind-jews-and-chinese-18071 Comments for "Common traits bind Jews and Chinese " en Circumstantial evidence: the http://dagblog.com/comment/188594#comment-188594 <a id="comment-188594"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/188573#comment-188573">Let&#039;s just say all these</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Circumstantial evidence:  the Second Temple of Herod and Jesus was the grandest public building in the Empire.  As well as the Temple, Herod built many other vast projects, including the artificial harbour at Caesaria, and palaces at Massada and Herodion.  Herod didn't have any colonies to pay tribute, so his income came from taxes.  Construction on that scale would require a very large tax base.</p> </div></div></div> Tue, 14 Jan 2014 22:32:09 +0000 Lurker comment 188594 at http://dagblog.com Let's just say all these http://dagblog.com/comment/188573#comment-188573 <a id="comment-188573"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/188570#comment-188570">Dio&#039;s 580,000 Jews killed in</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Let's just say all these numbers are suspicious &amp; good for indicative purposes only.</p> </div></div></div> Mon, 13 Jan 2014 16:34:53 +0000 Anonymous PP comment 188573 at http://dagblog.com Dio's 580,000 Jews killed in http://dagblog.com/comment/188570#comment-188570 <a id="comment-188570"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/188569#comment-188569">My guess is that PP&#039;s half a</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>  Dio's 580,000 Jews killed in the 2nd century revolt is credible, if it includes deaths from all causes(although Dio says it excludes deaths from hunger, pestilence etc.).</p> </div></div></div> Mon, 13 Jan 2014 12:09:32 +0000 Aaron Carine comment 188570 at http://dagblog.com My guess is that PP's half a http://dagblog.com/comment/188569#comment-188569 <a id="comment-188569"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/188568#comment-188568">That would have to be a</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>  My guess is that PP's half a million is derived from Dio Cassius, who said that 240,000 perished in a Jewish revolt in Cyprus and over 100,000 in another revolt in Cyrene(around 116-117 AD) I don't think any historian takes those numbers seriously; classical historians were always throwing around ridiculously inflated numbers. Since the Jews in Cyprus were outnumbered, it's almost inconceivable that they could have killed so many.</p> </div></div></div> Mon, 13 Jan 2014 12:06:03 +0000 Aaron Carine comment 188569 at http://dagblog.com That would have to be a http://dagblog.com/comment/188568#comment-188568 <a id="comment-188568"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/188551#comment-188551">I read somewhere that around</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>That would have to be a hugely populated little province of Judea there with not very big Jerusalem capital along with other regions compared to totals for Gaul, Britannia, Iberia, Greece, Northern Africa and Rome (Italy) itself. Estimated population of the Roman Empire under Augustus is about 45-55 million. China's population at the time was roughly 60 million.  Perhaps a more likely figure for Jewish population at its height might be 5-8%.</p> <p>I am surprised to learn that during the Kitos War the Jews killed a bit fewer than half a million people around the Roman Empire, which might have had some guessing about where their allegiances lay ;-)  During the 3rd war, over a half million Jews were killed with the population disperssed, also with a large number of Roman dead, though seems it didn't end Jewish insurrections around Palestine and other regions in later centuries, including the short-lived Persian alliance against the Byzantines (Thanks for piquing my curiosity about the period.)</p> </div></div></div> Mon, 13 Jan 2014 07:38:20 +0000 Anonymous PP comment 188568 at http://dagblog.com No doubt, but that is not the http://dagblog.com/comment/188563#comment-188563 <a id="comment-188563"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/188549#comment-188549">There have been Chinese Jews</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>No doubt, but that is not the point of the post although I am not really sure what the point of that big, sloppy wet kiss is.</p> <p> </p> </div></div></div> Mon, 13 Jan 2014 02:57:09 +0000 EmmaZahn comment 188563 at http://dagblog.com I read somewhere that around http://dagblog.com/comment/188551#comment-188551 <a id="comment-188551"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/link/common-traits-bind-jews-and-chinese-18071">Common traits bind Jews and Chinese </a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>I read somewhere that around the time of Jesus there were roughly the same number of Jews as Chinese in the world, and that Jews constituted more than 10% of the Roman Empire.  What changed all that were the two revolts against Rome, which both ended in failure and the slaughter and exile of the Jews.  Imagine a world with one and a half billion Jews!</p> </div></div></div> Sun, 12 Jan 2014 22:04:21 +0000 Lurker comment 188551 at http://dagblog.com There have been Chinese Jews http://dagblog.com/comment/188549#comment-188549 <a id="comment-188549"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/link/common-traits-bind-jews-and-chinese-18071">Common traits bind Jews and Chinese </a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>There have been Chinese Jews in the past.</p> </div></div></div> Sun, 12 Jan 2014 21:37:33 +0000 Peter Schwartz comment 188549 at http://dagblog.com One of the oddest posts I http://dagblog.com/comment/188546#comment-188546 <a id="comment-188546"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/link/common-traits-bind-jews-and-chinese-18071">Common traits bind Jews and Chinese </a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>One of the oddest posts I ever read. My jaw dropped so many times I finally just gaped in astonishment to the end.</p> <p> </p> </div></div></div> Sun, 12 Jan 2014 21:15:08 +0000 EmmaZahn comment 188546 at http://dagblog.com