dagblog - Comments for "Beyond Vietnam" http://dagblog.com/reader-blogs/beyond-vietnam-18099 Comments for "Beyond Vietnam" en Another element of the speech http://dagblog.com/comment/189038#comment-189038 <a id="comment-189038"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/reader-blogs/beyond-vietnam-18099">Beyond Vietnam</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Another element of the speech is aimed directly at the history of American Exceptionalism, in all its forms, inside and out.</p> <p>On one hand, King rebukes the arrogance of a "West" that meddles in the affairs of other nations with the self certainty that assumes we know what is best for them.</p> <p>On the other hand, he calls for our nation to support and fight for people who are slaves in their states.</p> <p>It is easy to say these are irreconcilable objectives and leave it at that.</p> <p>But the "third way" King said we had to figure out combines the two.</p> </div></div></div> Fri, 24 Jan 2014 03:53:25 +0000 moat comment 189038 at http://dagblog.com Probably all the nation's http://dagblog.com/comment/188894#comment-188894 <a id="comment-188894"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/reader-blogs/beyond-vietnam-18099">Beyond Vietnam</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>   Probably all the nation's wars since 1945 have been immoral, but Vietnam may be the one in which the American share of the guilt was the greatest.</p> <p> </p> </div></div></div> Wed, 22 Jan 2014 02:38:08 +0000 Aaron Carine comment 188894 at http://dagblog.com Pondering this speech from http://dagblog.com/comment/188856#comment-188856 <a id="comment-188856"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/reader-blogs/beyond-vietnam-18099">Beyond Vietnam</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Pondering this speech from the distance of nearly forty seven years, I am struck by how methodically Martin Luther King Jr.  always balanced the needs of the moment with a demand to anticipate the future.  Ever wielding the scourge against procrastination, he also demanded that we constantly draw maps of the future.  </p> <p>A map of the future could be called a dream. In the lexicon of King, having a dream is central to keeping a struggle alive in the moment. In the context of this speech, however, such a map is more about creating a design of something that needs to be made.</p> <p>One essential parameter of the design is strict adherence to the central principle: Equal opportunity cannot be portioned out to some and not to others. If some lines of “section” are dissolved by this principle, on what basis can a line be drawn that maintains section elsewhere? The right to equality is only a birthright in the sense we are all children of Adam.  The principle is global by default, even when it is at work in small a space as a bus.</p> <p>The second key element driving the design is the deficiency of readily available structural options. King speaks of how the evils of Capitalism have not been answered by Communism and the evils of Communism are not simply overcome by the victory of Capital. A half century later, this observation by King does not sound like a quaint remembrance of the Cold War but something we have failed to get our heads around.</p> <p>The third element of the design concerns how time is not infinitely patient with those who would build. King baldly states that our survival as an American people depends upon the success of the enterprise.</p> <p>King the activist has passed away; he will never lead another group of courageous souls through rough and dangerous places. But through speeches like these, King is still the foreman telling his crew: Get back to work; we gave you a break when we hired you.</p> </div></div></div> Tue, 21 Jan 2014 17:18:44 +0000 moat comment 188856 at http://dagblog.com I was an eyewitness to this http://dagblog.com/comment/188842#comment-188842 <a id="comment-188842"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/reader-blogs/beyond-vietnam-18099">Beyond Vietnam</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p><img alt="" src="http://dagblog.com/sites/default/files/pictures/picture-4147.gif" style="width: 45px; height: 48px;" /><strong><em>I was an eyewitness to this history . . .</em></strong></p> <p> </p> <p>I posted the following as part of <strong><a href="http://dagblog.com/reader-blogs/martin-luther-king-jr-man-who-made-differnce-18103#comment-188841">a comment over in Wattree's blog</a></strong> thread...</p> <p>In April 1967, when I was 21 years old, while serving in the US Navy, I was in New York City to compete in an indoor track and field meet at the Garden as a member of the <em>All US Military Track Team</em>. A fellow Army friend on the team asked me if I'd like to accompany him to a scheduled speech of Dr. King's at Riverside Church. It was the infamous "Beyond Vietnam: A Time to Break Silence." Later, a year to the day he was assassinated in Memphis in 1968.</p> <p> </p> <p>An American Prophet... a true visionary... taken from us way to early...</p> <p> </p> <p><object height="315" width="420"><param name="movie" value="//www.youtube.com/v/OC1Ru2p8OfU?version=3&amp;hl=en_US&amp;rel=0" /><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true" /><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always" /><embed allowfullscreen="true" allowscriptaccess="always" height="315" src="//www.youtube.com/v/OC1Ru2p8OfU?version=3&amp;hl=en_US&amp;rel=0" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" width="420"></embed></object></p> <p><br /><br /> ~OGD~</p> </div></div></div> Tue, 21 Jan 2014 08:49:55 +0000 oldenGoldenDecoy comment 188842 at http://dagblog.com You can hear MLK delivering http://dagblog.com/comment/188794#comment-188794 <a id="comment-188794"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/reader-blogs/beyond-vietnam-18099">Beyond Vietnam</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>You can hear MLK delivering this speech, 4 April 1967, (56 minutes and worth every minute in listening to it), at a Stanford site<a href="http://mlk-kpp01.stanford.edu/index.php/encyclopedia/documentsentry/doc_beyond_vietnam/"> link,</a> which also has the text. Almost exactly a year later, MLK was assassinated, by a 'lone nut'.</p> <p>As with the JFK assassination, the lone nut never stood trial, and we were absolutely assured there was no conspiracy involved with the murder. As <a href="http://www.ratical.org/ratville/CAH/EnemyWithin.html">Gore Vidal once noted,</a><em> "it is an article of faith that there are no conspiracies in American life."</em></p> <p>A slightly better <a href="https://archive.org/details/MartinLutherKing-BeyondVietnam-1967">audio of the speech </a>is at the Internet Archive as a downloadable vbr.zip which unzips as an MP3.</p> <p> </p> </div></div></div> Mon, 20 Jan 2014 19:27:05 +0000 NCD comment 188794 at http://dagblog.com