dagblog - Comments for "The NSA’s Secret Role in the U.S. Assassination Program" http://dagblog.com/link/nsa-s-secret-role-us-assassination-program-18200 Comments for "The NSA’s Secret Role in the U.S. Assassination Program" en People got a lot more heat http://dagblog.com/comment/190341#comment-190341 <a id="comment-190341"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/190331#comment-190331">I wonder how long before the</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>People got a lot more heat for speaking out against Vietnam than drones. The Dixie Chicks had their music careered damaged by speaking out against Bush. Given that Ted Nugent can wish the President dead and a woman at a GOP  town hall meeting can call for Obama's execution, I don't think that herds of people who speak out are going to be jailed. A Governor shoved her finger in Obama"s face and was not thrown in jail.</p> </div></div></div> Mon, 10 Feb 2014 22:58:54 +0000 rmrd0000 comment 190341 at http://dagblog.com Innocents will be killed http://dagblog.com/comment/190337#comment-190337 <a id="comment-190337"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/link/nsa-s-secret-role-us-assassination-program-18200">The NSA’s Secret Role in the U.S. Assassination Program</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>  Innocents will be killed whether we rely on electronic surveillance or human intelligence, and even if we act in accord with the laws of war. And if the rule is that we can never kill any of these people, because that is "assassination"; some of them will probably succeed in carrying out attacks. We could simply call off the whole war, and maybe become pacifists, but I myself am not willing to do all the things pacifists want us to do.</p> </div></div></div> Mon, 10 Feb 2014 22:11:14 +0000 Aaron Carine comment 190337 at http://dagblog.com I wonder how long before the http://dagblog.com/comment/190331#comment-190331 <a id="comment-190331"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/190325#comment-190325">US considers drone strike on</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>I wonder how long before the policy includes, "any American, who should speak out against the drone strike, will be considered giving aid and comfort to the enemy"?</p> </div></div></div> Mon, 10 Feb 2014 20:15:05 +0000 Resistance comment 190331 at http://dagblog.com Marcy Wheeler's analysis of http://dagblog.com/comment/190326#comment-190326 <a id="comment-190326"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/190325#comment-190325">US considers drone strike on</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p><a href="http://www.emptywheel.net/2014/02/10/the-drone-assassinate-americans-overseas-that-want-to-kill-americans-overseas/">Marcy Wheeler's analysis of the above story.</a></p> </div></div></div> Mon, 10 Feb 2014 19:39:05 +0000 artappraiser comment 190326 at http://dagblog.com US considers drone strike on http://dagblog.com/comment/190325#comment-190325 <a id="comment-190325"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/link/nsa-s-secret-role-us-assassination-program-18200">The NSA’s Secret Role in the U.S. Assassination Program</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><blockquote> <p><a href="http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/feb/10/us-possible-drone-strike-american-al-qaida-suspect">US considers drone strike on American al-Qaida suspect abroad</a><br /><em>Officials say member of-Qaida is actively planning terror attacks, but CIA drone cannot strike him because he is a US citizen</em></p> <p><em>Associated Press</em> in Washington, via theguardian.com, 10 Feb., 2014</p> <p>An American citizen who is a member of al-Qaida is actively planning attacks against Americans overseas, US officials say, and the Obama administration is wrestling with whether to kill him with a drone strike and how to do so legally under its new stricter targeting policy issued last year.</p> <p>The CIA drones watching him cannot strike,<strong> because he’s a US citizen and the Justice Department must build a case against him</strong>, a task it hasn’t completed.</p> <p>Four US officials said the American suspected terrorist is in a country that refuses US military action on its soil and that has proved unable to go after him. And President Obama’s <strong>new policy says</strong> <u><strong>American</strong></u> <strong>suspected terrorists overseas can only be killed by the military, not the CIA</strong>, creating a policy conundrum for the White House.</p> <p>Two of the officials described the man as an al-Qaida facilitator who has been directly responsible for deadly attacks against US citizens overseas and who continues to plan attacks against them that would use improvised explosive devices.</p> <p>But one US official said the Defense Department was divided over whether the man is dangerous enough to merit [....]</p> </blockquote> <p>My highlighting. And I suggest to read the article in full for more details on new policy.</p> </div></div></div> Mon, 10 Feb 2014 19:30:05 +0000 artappraiser comment 190325 at http://dagblog.com US stops adding al Qaeda http://dagblog.com/comment/190322#comment-190322 <a id="comment-190322"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/link/nsa-s-secret-role-us-assassination-program-18200">The NSA’s Secret Role in the U.S. Assassination Program</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><blockquote> <p><a href="http://www.longwarjournal.org/threat-matrix/archives/2014/02/us_stops_adding_al_qaeda_leade.php#ixzz2swm9VlKN">US stops adding al Qaeda leaders to 'kill list'</a><br /> By Bill Roggio, "Threat Matrix" @ <em>Long War Journal,</em> February 7, 2014</p> <p>If you want to 'end the war' against al Qaeda, one good way would be to declare that all of the global terror group's leaders are dead, and declare victory. And this seems to be exactly what the Obama administration is doing. And pretty much doing it at the behest of our 'friends' in Pakistan. The same Pakistani friends who insisted for 10 years that Osama bin Laden wasn't in Pakistan, until he was killed by US SEALs in a raid just outside Pakistan's version of West Point.</p> <p><a href="http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702304450904579365112070806176?mg=reno64-wsj&amp;url=http%3A%2F%2Fonline.wsj.com%2Farticle%2FSB10001424052702304450904579365112070806176.html">Read this report at <em>The Wall Street Journal</em></a>. Here is an excerpt, emphasis is mine: [....]</p> </blockquote> </div></div></div> Mon, 10 Feb 2014 18:58:11 +0000 artappraiser comment 190322 at http://dagblog.com The former JSOC drone http://dagblog.com/comment/190300#comment-190300 <a id="comment-190300"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/link/nsa-s-secret-role-us-assassination-program-18200">The NSA’s Secret Role in the U.S. Assassination Program</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><blockquote> <p>The former JSOC drone operator is adamant that the technology has been responsible for taking out terrorists and networks of people facilitating improvised explosive device attacks against U.S. forces in Afghanistan. But he also states that innocent people have “absolutely” been killed as a result of the NSA’s increasing reliance on the surveillance tactic.</p> </blockquote> <p> </p> </div></div></div> Mon, 10 Feb 2014 13:34:05 +0000 A Guy Called LULU comment 190300 at http://dagblog.com