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The tide has turned. We are

trkingmomoe — Fri, 28 Feb 2014 04:13:39 +0000

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The tide has turned. We are hearing and witnessing the last death rattles of the back lash to civil rights that ended Jim Crow. A strong push back is in swing. How do I know? We voted into office a person of color as president. twice. The poles show we are looking towards a women for the next president.

Thanks. That does make

trkingmomoe — Fri, 28 Feb 2014 03:59:35 +0000

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Thanks. That does make sense because of their political and scientific views they have today. This country was built because of the labor from Africa. Yet we still don't place high recognition for their contribution to our culture and economy.

Oh and we have Eric! This new

Richard Day — Thu, 27 Feb 2014 21:39:28 +0000

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Oh and we have Eric!

This new media, I mean hell, anybody (even me) can communicate.

I aint Nugent.

But I get some draw as it were.

And thousands of draws add up to something and there are thousands like you and me who make their voices heard!

If I did not believe that, I would quit!

Yeah, we do not need the same songs--even though some songs in my head must be reproduced here. hahahah

No, we try it this way, and we try it that way and we attempt to find a new SONG!

Is someone like my friend at the hotel following wedding rehearsals earning 7 bucks an hour a slave. Yeah!

But definitions count.

WE HAVE A LONG WAY TO GO!

FOR SURE!

One of the nice things is

rmrd0000 — Thu, 27 Feb 2014 21:16:08 +0000

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One of the nice things is that there are Black websites that provide daily reminders of Black history. There are books on Black history published monthly. We are learning more about the volume of Black slave revolts in well documented historical texts rather than relying on isolated, cherry picked snippets. Books on the role of Black women are pouring out.

Black History month has become like a Golden Oldies record playing the same songs over and over again. Time has marched on. As noted above there is a statue of Denmark Vesey n Charleston. There is an African Burial Ground marking the tombs of slaves found near Wall Street in Manhattan.

One problem we do face is often when US slavery is mentioned we get diverted into discussing other forms of slavery. It would be a part of the normal progression of discussion, but it is often the first response to a discussion about slavery in the US. "Let's look elsewhere." As such slavery becomes a mockery. Obamacare is slavery, etc.

We have come a long way we have a long way to go.

I do not wish to inflame the

Richard Day — Thu, 27 Feb 2014 20:47:35 +0000

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I do not wish to inflame the masses, but it is Black History Month after all and there are so many cites lighting up to the challenge.

Here is another source (THEBEAST.com) doing a fine job as it always does!

In 1901, Georgia Gov. Allen Candler defended unequal public schooling for African Americans on the grounds that “God made them negroes and we cannot by education make them white folks.” After the Supreme Court ordered public schools integrated in Brown v. Board of Education, many segregationists cited their own faith as justification for official racism. Ross Barnett won Mississippi’s governorship in a landslide in 1960 after claiming that “the good Lord was the original segregationist.” Senator Harry Byrd of Virginia relied on passages from Genesis, Leviticus and Matthew when he spoke out against the civil rights law banning employment discrimination and whites-only lunch counters on the Senate floor.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/02/27/morally-and-legally-the-right-call-in-arizona.html

Really, it is almost the end of the month but there are fine, fine pieces out there about the Black Struggle.

I am just a white guy enamored by this subject that will NEVER go away!

But think about the decades following I Spy.

Think about the first Black face you ever saw on TV News?

We have come a long, long way.

It is of the utmost importance that for the last five years and for the next three years we are privileged to see a Black Face speaking from the Rose Garden!

Parts of NYC and MASS and Chicago and Milwaukee and many Northern States are plagued with racism of all sorts.

The problem is not just in THE SOUTH, as they say.

That's enough.

Except that our schools are mostly funded per real estate taxes.

I recall a Black Woman who feigned 'citizenship' in some proper suburb, living out of her car just so that her kids could receive a 'proper' education and ultimately being prosecuted; ultimately being prosecuted for her attempt to see that her kids would learn something.

This all ends up being a problem associated with CLASS.

Okay, I'm done.

It appears that the Professor

Richard Day — Thu, 27 Feb 2014 16:42:59 +0000

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It appears that the Professor handled it rather well.

Better than I could have!

Wait a minute: someone from

Verified Atheist — Thu, 27 Feb 2014 15:29:05 +0000

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Wait a minute: someone from South Carolina, of all places, asked why Vesey didn't work within the system? Would that same someone ask why South Carolina itself didn't choose to work within the system instead of rebelling against the Union?

Another interesting aspect

rmrd0000 — Thu, 27 Feb 2014 14:55:51 +0000

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Another interesting aspect was that the country divided along religious lines. The Baptists and Methodists split. Southern religious groups saw slavery as Biblical, while most Northern denominations saw slavery as evil based on the same text. Other Christian groups in Europe had, in general, come to see slavery as evil. This was the case in Britain where religion played a major role in ending the practice of slavery.

The religious divisions are well detailed in Mark A Knoll's " The Civil War as a Theological Crisis". The book notes the views of Christians in Europe over the issue of slavery in the United States. As far as I can tell, the book is unique in taking a detailed look at the views of Christians in the United States and Europe on slavery in the antebellum period. Pro-slavery US Christians were outliers on the issue of slavery

Even today we have "Christians" aiding evil people. This time the issue is persecuting of homosexuals in countries like Russia, Uganda and Nigeria.

Unfortunately history is

trkingmomoe — Thu, 27 Feb 2014 14:27:23 +0000

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Unfortunately history is taught with the emphases on dates. kings and wars. It has only been in the last 50 years that historians are looking at how people really lived and how it impacted the history. Misinformation can run rapid because we have no real understanding of past generations and the society they lived in.

It was an economical necessity to get rid of slavery so our country could enter the industrial age and have an economy that would demand industrial goods. Andrew Jackson threw us into a 3 decade long depression when he closed the National Bank System. The Civil War was also an economical war because slavery was holding the country back from growing the economy. Southern politics is still trying to hold the economy down. Also people had become aware of how inhuman slavery was. The western world had ended slavery a couple of decades earlier and we needed to join them.

Yes slavery would have died a natural death but so would have this experimental democracy. Lincoln understood this. The south was going to be forced into the industrial economy.

After the war. this was the first time in history that women were in charge of their lives. About 40% did not have an adult male relative that was alive. Women could make decisions on how the family money would be spent. They did what they had to do to support their families and created a demand for house hold goods. Before that men chose how much would be spent on the home. The men thought women needed to work hard so they would be less trouble. So men bought horses and things they wanted to make their lives better. No time before had any society in history had so many women able to do this. Women had to ask if they could buy a ribbon or a kitchen item or justify their needs to the male adult that was in charge and sometimes in charge of her money that really had been hers to begin with. There were less race horses and fancy bridles and more things for the women and children being bought after the war. Industries like pottery, glass wear, silver plate,furniture and wood stoves took off after the war. Women could buy sewing machines on credit and they did making Singer a rich man. And of coarse it made things easier for women and many supported their households with those sewing machines sewing for other people. This demand for goods also came from former slaves. They too could earn wages and buy things to build their own households.

We would not have prospered as much if slavery had stayed in place through the second half of the 19th century. We would have been late to the industrial age.

They also don't like the

trkingmomoe — Thu, 27 Feb 2014 13:21:44 +0000

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They also don't like the youth, even their own kids because they are going to bring change.