dagblog - Comments for "Portrait of despair: Thousands queue for UN food parcels in Yarmouk, Damascus" http://dagblog.com/link/portrait-despair-thousands-queue-un-food-parcels-yarmouk-damascus-18288 Comments for "Portrait of despair: Thousands queue for UN food parcels in Yarmouk, Damascus" en So it's like the gazillions http://dagblog.com/comment/193031#comment-193031 <a id="comment-193031"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/193021#comment-193021">U.N. Denies Altering Image of</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>So it's like the gazillions of orcs in the Two Towers....?</p> <p> </p> <p>O/T:Just a reminder, like the <a href="http://scifi.stackexchange.com/questions/13467/how-could-aragorn-be-88-years-old-while-he-looks-relatively-young">Kings of Gondor</a>, the <a href="http://my.firedoglake.com/members/rexvisigothis/profile">Kings of the Visigoths</a> age very slowly (take THAT, tmac....medicare perch indeed)</p> </div></div></div> Tue, 11 Mar 2014 23:24:07 +0000 jollyroger comment 193031 at http://dagblog.com U.N. Denies Altering Image of http://dagblog.com/comment/193021#comment-193021 <a id="comment-193021"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/link/portrait-despair-thousands-queue-un-food-parcels-yarmouk-damascus-18288">Portrait of despair: Thousands queue for UN food parcels in Yarmouk, Damascus</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><blockquote> <a href="http://thelede.blogs.nytimes.com/2014/03/11/u-n-denies-altering-image-of-palestinian-refugees-in-damascus/?module=BlogPost-Title&amp;version=Blog%20Main&amp;contentCollection=General&amp;action=Click&amp;pgtype=Blogs&amp;region=Body">U.N. Denies Altering Image of Palestinian Refugees in Damascus</a><br /> By Robert Mackey, <em>The Lede</em> @ nytimes.com, March 11, 2014 <p>A spokesman for the United Nations agency that provides assistance to Palestinian refugees rejected claims that <a href="http://www.unrwa.org/galleries/photos/morning-yarmouk">an arresting image</a> of thousands of people waiting for food distribution on a ruined street in Damascus recently had been digitally altered.</p> <p>Chris Gunness, the spokesman for the United Nations Relief and Works Agency, or Unrwa, said in a statement on Tuesday that the photograph — which is being used in <a href="http://www.unrwa.org/newsroom/press-releases/130-humanitarian-organisations-demand-access-civilians-syria">a social media campaign</a> to draw attention to the suffering of refugees trapped by fighting in a camp in the Syrian capital — has not “been ‘photoshopped’ or tampered with in any way. It is entirely genuine.”</p> <p>Mr. Gunness, who has expressed his personal outrage at conditions in the Yarmouk Camp, is leading an effort <a href="https://www.thunderclap.it/projects/9565-letusthrough?locale=en">on the social media platform Thunderclap</a> to get the image displayed on a giant screen in Times Square by generating 23 million retweets, matching Syria’s prewar population [.....]</p> </blockquote> </div></div></div> Tue, 11 Mar 2014 19:52:57 +0000 artappraiser comment 193021 at http://dagblog.com Syria's liberators face http://dagblog.com/comment/192569#comment-192569 <a id="comment-192569"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/link/portrait-despair-thousands-queue-un-food-parcels-yarmouk-damascus-18288">Portrait of despair: Thousands queue for UN food parcels in Yarmouk, Damascus</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><blockquote> <p><a href="http://atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/MID-01-040314.html">Syria's liberators face Palestine legacy</a><br /> Ramzy Baroud, <em>Asia Times Online,</em> Mar 4, '14</p> <p>Summary: Arab media and politicians champion the rights of Syria's suffering civilians with the same fervor that they back the Palestinian cause, but none mention the rape and revulsion Syrian refugees face in their countries. The region's muted reaction to the siege of Palestinian refugees in Syria's Yarmouk camp is further testament to the fragile state of "Arab solidarity".</p> </blockquote> </div></div></div> Wed, 05 Mar 2014 04:12:35 +0000 artappraiser comment 192569 at http://dagblog.com This Guardian article of Feb. http://dagblog.com/comment/192261#comment-192261 <a id="comment-192261"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/192059#comment-192059">I had put a comment with a</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>This <a href="http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/feb/26/queue-food-syria-yarmouk-camp-desperation-refugees"><em>Guardian </em>article of Feb. 26 </a>clears up some of this:</p> <blockquote> <p>UNRWA's <strong>food parcels </strong>– which include tinned meat, rice and lentils – <strong>can feed a family of up to eight people for 10 days.</strong></p> <p>The agency is warning that the degradation of conditions inside the camp could lead to the spread of disease. There have been reports of mothers dying in childbirth, and families surviving on animal feed, according to a spokesman. The UN has sent in 10,000 doses of polio vaccine in the past month.</p> <p>The UN security council adopted a resolution last week calling on all parties in Syria to take steps to facilitate the efforts of the UN and other humanitarian agencies to provide relief to civilians, "including by promptly facilitating safe and unhindered humanitarian access to populations in need of assistance in all areas under their control."</p> <p>However, said Grandi, the <strong>situation on the ground was "very messy, very localised, a lot of local dynamics at play". Each distribution required "very complex negotiations with a lot of different groups".</strong></p> </blockquote> <p>and</p> <blockquote> <p><a href="http://www.theguardian.com/world/unitednations" title="More from the Guardian on United Nations">United Nations</a> workers <strong>have delivered about 7,000 food parcels over recent weeks, </strong>following negotiations between the Syrian government, rebel forces and Palestinian factions within the camp. <strong>The most recent delivery, of 450 parcels, was on Wednesday.</strong> <strong>The UN acknowledges that the level of aid is a "drop in the ocean".</strong></p> <p>Yarmouk has been cut off since last July. Many residents are now weak and severely malnourished, as well as being exposed to the risk of disease, or death and injury from fighting.</p> </blockquote> <p>and</p> <blockquote> <p><strong>The distribution point is a "no-man's land", overlooked by sniper positions, between a Syrian government-controlled checkpoint and the camp's interior. </strong>"What about those who cannot come [to the distribution point]?" said Grandi. "I'm pretty sure there are many people who have never received assistance in the last month because they are too weak, or maybe elderly, or unaccompanied children."</p> </blockquote> <p>Also note from the header:</p> <blockquote> <p>has been under blockade for month</p> </blockquote> <p>What is still not clear is the story of the picture if it was indeed taken on Jan. 31, i.e., how much aid was distributed that day, if any, or if they were lining up for like, some kind of registration or whatever. Because Jan. 31 is not reported anywhere as a date they managed to distribute some of the approx. 7,000 parcels they have distributed in total over the whole period. <em>Because</em> the U.N. knows it could not handle the vast needs in one trip, I can imagine them setting up a system where people get like a number and then that serves as a sort of queue. So that everyone does not have to line up again on every distribution the U.N. can manage to make.</p> <p>Also,comes to mind when you are handing out parcels for a "family of 8 for 10 days" but cannot get in enough to aid all at once, you really do need some sort of I.D. process for fairness, to avoid black market type ops, to avoid only the fittest getting aid and then selling it or giving out unfairly?</p> </div></div></div> Sat, 01 Mar 2014 19:48:06 +0000 artappraiser comment 192261 at http://dagblog.com Here's the website of the http://dagblog.com/comment/192225#comment-192225 <a id="comment-192225"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/link/portrait-despair-thousands-queue-un-food-parcels-yarmouk-damascus-18288">Portrait of despair: Thousands queue for UN food parcels in Yarmouk, Damascus</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Here's the website of the U.N. organization specifically dedicated to aiding all the Palestinian refugees in camps:</p> <p><a href="http://www.unrwa.org/">http://www.unrwa.org/</a></p> <p>They are putting update info.on Yarmouk there, though I don't know how helpful to understanding the particulars of the situation, it's more like more P.R. about trying to get in.</p> <p>Note it has an "how you can help" link:</p> <p><a href="http://www.unrwa.org/how-you-can-help">http://www.unrwa.org/how-you-can-help</a></p> </div></div></div> Fri, 28 Feb 2014 23:25:13 +0000 artappraiser comment 192225 at http://dagblog.com Well, that's a bit of an http://dagblog.com/comment/192060#comment-192060 <a id="comment-192060"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/192059#comment-192059">I had put a comment with a</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Well, that's a bit of an improvement (as if....)</p> <p> </p> <p>Edit to add: on re-read, I am still unable to come away with any impression other than that on <strong>some</strong> particular day, when all those people came waiting for food, all but 450 went away empty handed...</p> </div></div></div> Thu, 27 Feb 2014 19:18:04 +0000 jollyroger comment 192060 at http://dagblog.com I had put a comment with a http://dagblog.com/comment/192059#comment-192059 <a id="comment-192059"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/192057#comment-192057">Am I to understand that for</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>I had put a comment with a question to that effect but then read their article more carefully and deleted it. It is badly written. It reports at the end the two days they could get in to do <em>7,000 </em>parcels, 18 January and 20 February (plus a huge load of polio vaccines and sundry.) Oddly, neither of them coincide with the Jan. 31 date for the photo, so I still don't get it, it's confusing, not well done. Does that mean they lined up all these people on Jan. 31 but didn't give them anything on that day?</p> <p>But overall, the article is meant like this, I think: we got in this day and that day and managed to do this, and then yesterday we got in for a few hours to do this little more (450), but boy, we really really need to get in some more.</p> <p>Also on second thought, I deleted my question too because I had read about different types of parcels and they could be as large as a month's supply if just basic nutrition, so I shouldn't presume by just the number, that it's like just a day or week of food each.</p> </div></div></div> Thu, 27 Feb 2014 19:13:46 +0000 artappraiser comment 192059 at http://dagblog.com Am I to understand that for http://dagblog.com/comment/192057#comment-192057 <a id="comment-192057"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/191998#comment-191998">Syria: UN agency delivers</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Am I to understand that for that sea of need the agency delivered 450 packages? </p> </div></div></div> Thu, 27 Feb 2014 19:02:43 +0000 jollyroger comment 192057 at http://dagblog.com Oh, sure, http://dagblog.com/comment/192056#comment-192056 <a id="comment-192056"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/191997#comment-191997">Photo available here much</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Oh, sure, thanks-a-million...the "cropped" version brought me to my knees (and not for purposes of prayer...)</p> <p> </p> <p>I guess I'm a victim of "the CNN effect"</p> <p> </p> <p>Oh shit....that's all, just, "oh shit"  (I am now a graduate of the Richard Day school of commenting-not that there's anything wrong with that...)</p> </div></div></div> Thu, 27 Feb 2014 19:01:01 +0000 jollyroger comment 192056 at http://dagblog.com Thanks AA The poor people. http://dagblog.com/comment/192002#comment-192002 <a id="comment-192002"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/191997#comment-191997">Photo available here much</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Thanks AA   The poor people.  Horrific?   Very sad . </p> </div></div></div> Thu, 27 Feb 2014 12:12:47 +0000 Resistance comment 192002 at http://dagblog.com