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Shame works wonders in

Ramona — Mon, 10 Mar 2014 12:14:36 +0000

In reply to Right. And the next thing you

Shame works wonders in keeping people down. If you can convince them it's their fault they won't look to any other reason for their misery. God forbid we should blame the profiteers. Not their fault when people are lazy, unmotivated and always looking for a handout.

That guy is Out to Lunch.

Doctor Cleveland — Mon, 10 Mar 2014 03:50:18 +0000

In reply to Paul Ryan to Poor Parents: Even Your Kids Are Ashamed Of You

That guy is Out to Lunch. Don't expect him back soon.

Right. And the next thing you

CVille Dem — Mon, 10 Mar 2014 03:18:28 +0000

In reply to Absolutely. It pays in the

Right. And the next thing you know... Those well-fed, educated FREELOADERS will expect to VOTE!

Absolutely. It pays in the

Ramona — Mon, 10 Mar 2014 00:06:40 +0000

In reply to Most kids don't know until

Absolutely. It pays in the long run to keep kids fed so their brains can function. It could be that's the problem. They can't afford to have too many braniacs roaming around. They might take over and then where would the Wingers and the Koch Brothers be?

Ain't nuthin no how the fault

Anonymous ncd — Sun, 09 Mar 2014 23:40:16 +0000

In reply to Thomas Sowell has been clear

Ain't nuthin no how the fault of Republicans or rich folks.

Poh folks even crashed Wall Street with them liar loans libruls made em give out.

Most kids don't know until

trkingmomoe — Sun, 09 Mar 2014 23:34:29 +0000

In reply to Maybe a dumb question but

Most kids don't know until they are older. They just line up and get their lunch. The older ones wish they could get them free so they could spend that money on other things. Some of them skip lunch to save their lunch money for games or music. Schools are careful not to embarrass kids on this subject. They just want to teach and the kids to learn. Kids do better in school if they are not hungry.

Thomas Sowell has been clear

rmrd0000 — Sun, 09 Mar 2014 19:59:51 +0000

In reply to Paul Ryan got the story from

Thomas Sowell has been clear that he wants to shame American poor. Here is Sowell's description of the poor.

Most Americans with incomes below the official poverty level have air-conditioning, television, own a motor vehicle and, far from being hungry, are more likely than other Americans to be overweight. But an arbitrary definition of words and numbers gives them access to the taxpayers' money.

Herman Cain is clear that poverty is the fault of the poor.

CAIN: I don’t have facts to back this up, but I happen to believe that these demonstrations are planned and orchestrated to distract from the failed policies of the Obama administration. Don’t blame Wall Street, don’t blame the big banks, if you don’t have a job and you’re not rich, blame yourself! [...] It is not someone’s fault if they succeeded, it is someone’s fault if they failed.

Note that Cain doesn't need facts to back up his opinion.

It would be if it were true.

Ramona — Sun, 09 Mar 2014 19:33:31 +0000

In reply to Maybe a dumb question but

It would be if it were true. It's not.

Paul Ryan got the story from

Ramona — Sun, 09 Mar 2014 19:30:04 +0000

In reply to You don't think he was

Paul Ryan got the story from Eloise Anderson, when she recounted it at a congressional hearing. This is what Ryan heard and reacted to:

Washington Post fact checker Glenn Kessler told Chait that it seems as if Anderson essentially fibbed to Ryan about the source of this story. Kessler cites the transcript of a July 31, 2013 congressional hearing, in which Anderson recounted the "anecdote" in front of Ryan:

"My thought has always been around the SNAP program even when it was called "food stamps" is, why do you have this program, school program, school breakfast, school lunch, school dinner, when do we start asking parents to be responsible for their children?

You know, a little boy told me once that what was important to him is that he didn't want school lunch, he wanted a brown bag because the brown bag that he brought with his lunch in it meant that his mom cared about him. Just think what we have done. If this kid tells me a brown bag was more important than a free lunch, we've missed the whole notion of parents being there for their children because we've taken over that responsibility, and I think we need to be very careful about how we provide programs to families that don't undermine families' responsibilities."

That's pure Right Wing shaming crap. It's also a way of justifying their lack of compassion for the poor. Keeps them from giving our hard-earned money to those irresponsible people who just keep on being poor. Much better to give tax breaks to "responsible" people who don't ask us for anything. Right.

Maybe a dumb question but

EmmaZahn — Sun, 09 Mar 2014 18:23:58 +0000

In reply to Paul Ryan to Poor Parents: Even Your Kids Are Ashamed Of You

Maybe a dumb question but when did brown bagging flip as a social status marker? I remember when people tended to be more embarrassed than proud bagging it.

I also wonder if other kids would know which school-provided lunches were free and which were bought. If so, how do they know? Do schools no longer bother to make sure they know who they will be feeding ahead of time?

Wouldn't singling out a kid on the free lunch program to interview and subsequently be used as an exemplar be even more embarrassing for him?