dagblog - Comments for "Report: U.S. Could Be Plunged Into Blackout By Minimal Attacks" http://dagblog.com/link/report-us-could-be-plunged-blackout-minimal-attacks-18352 Comments for "Report: U.S. Could Be Plunged Into Blackout By Minimal Attacks" en More on the story from http://dagblog.com/comment/193245#comment-193245 <a id="comment-193245"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/link/report-us-could-be-plunged-blackout-minimal-attacks-18352">Report: U.S. Could Be Plunged Into Blackout By Minimal Attacks</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>More on the story from Bloomberg -- and it mentions microgrids!</p> <blockquote> <p><a href="http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-03-14/electric-grid-attack-fuels-sniper-versus-hacker-debate.html">Electric-Grid Attack Fuels Sniper-Versus-Hacker Debate - Bloomberg</a></p> <div> Norris said the U.S. should focus on technologies, like the development of microgrids, that can quickly isolate damaged components from the rest of the network in the event of an attack. Advanced technologies can also make better use of data to improve awareness of incidents affecting the grid, he said.</div> <div>  </div> <div> “You address multiple threats, not just physical threats,” Norris said. At at FERC meeting on Feb. 20, he said, “Our future is in a much smarter and more nimble grid.”</div> </blockquote> <div> It also mentions using card-keys to access substations a couple of times. How would they work if the grid is down?</div> <div>  </div> </div></div></div> Sun, 16 Mar 2014 13:24:03 +0000 EmmaZahn comment 193245 at http://dagblog.com Definitely should keep spares http://dagblog.com/comment/193176#comment-193176 <a id="comment-193176"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/193173#comment-193173">How about just buying a bunch</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Definitely should keep spares on hand because for some things it is better to have them and not need them than need them and not have them. But I suspect the biggest gaps would be in manpower know-how. No doubt, there would be a deep pool of volunteers willing to help but how many of them would get fried learning how to?</p> <p> </p> </div></div></div> Fri, 14 Mar 2014 20:36:23 +0000 EmmaZahn comment 193176 at http://dagblog.com How about just buying a bunch http://dagblog.com/comment/193173#comment-193173 <a id="comment-193173"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/193168#comment-193168">Why am I not comforted by</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>How about just buying a bunch of spare transformers, while they are still making them? Am  I missing something ?</p> <p> </p> <p>Edit to add: It was the stalwarts at FERC, of course, who <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DOLNWF5QMxY">stood between Granny and the rapacious pirates of ENRON once California deregulated on a state level</a></p> </div></div></div> Fri, 14 Mar 2014 20:29:31 +0000 jollyroger comment 193173 at http://dagblog.com Why am I not comforted by http://dagblog.com/comment/193168#comment-193168 <a id="comment-193168"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/link/report-us-could-be-plunged-blackout-minimal-attacks-18352">Report: U.S. Could Be Plunged Into Blackout By Minimal Attacks</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><div> Why am I not comforted by <a href="http://www.ferc.gov/media/statements-speeches/lafleur/2014/03-12-14.asp#.UyNZiT-8B7Q">this reaction</a> to the WSJ article by the Federal Energy Regulatory Commission, an article likely prompted by <a href="http://www.ferc.gov/media/media.asp">other recent FERC press releases and public statements</a>?</div> <div>  </div> <blockquote> <div> Acting Chairman Cheryl A. LaFleur Statement</div> <div> March 12, 2014</div> <div>  </div> <div> On Publication of Wall Street Journal Article About Grid Security</div> <div>  </div> <div> "We take seriously our obligation to the American people to protect the reliability and security of our nation’s energy infrastructure and to enhance its resilience. Experts from FERC and other federal agencies work continuously with the electric industry to assess the threats posed by physical attacks, cyber intrusions, and severe weather; perform sophisticated modeling to identify and address vulnerabilities; and provide advice on security techniques and best practices. FERC also oversees mandatory reliability standards for the electric industry, including cyber security standards and standards that require planning for contingencies and emergency operations. On Friday, March 7, 2014, FERC ordered mandatory standards to protect critical facilities from physical security threats and vulnerabilities. At the same time, no single action or approach is sufficient. Building a resilient grid requires a comprehensive and ongoing assessment of how the system is planned, constructed, operated, and secured under a range of conditions. </div> <div>  </div> <div> "Today’s publication by The Wall Street Journal of sensitive information about the grid undermines the careful work done by professionals who dedicate their careers to providing the American people with a reliable and secure grid. The Wall Street Journal has appropriately declined to identify by name particularly critical substations throughout the country. <strong>Nonetheless, the publication of other sensitive information is highly irresponsible. </strong>While there may be value in a general discussion of the steps we take to keep the grid safe, the publication of sensitive material about the grid crosses the line from transparency to irresponsibility, and gives those who would do us harm a roadmap to achieve malicious designs. The American people deserve better."</div> </blockquote> <div> Why confirm that the WSJ article contained sensitive information?</div> <div>  </div> </div></div></div> Fri, 14 Mar 2014 19:46:56 +0000 EmmaZahn comment 193168 at http://dagblog.com Yeah, I was thinking of how http://dagblog.com/comment/193165#comment-193165 <a id="comment-193165"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/193164#comment-193164">After the publication of this</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Yeah, I was thinking of how nice it'd be to be off the grid....of course, then you'd need to sign up Resistance as your in house security, (he'll be in hog "I told you so" heaven if this ever happens...)</p> </div></div></div> Fri, 14 Mar 2014 18:31:54 +0000 jollyroger comment 193165 at http://dagblog.com After the publication of this http://dagblog.com/comment/193164#comment-193164 <a id="comment-193164"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/link/report-us-could-be-plunged-blackout-minimal-attacks-18352">Report: U.S. Could Be Plunged Into Blackout By Minimal Attacks</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>After the publication of this article, I wonder if there will be a coordinating jump in the stock prices of survival outfitters. You know, the guys that sell hand crank lights and water purification pills.</p> <p><img alt="cheeky" height="20" src="http://www.dagblog.com/modules/ckeditor/ckeditor/plugins/smiley/images/tounge_smile.gif" title="cheeky" width="20" /></p> </div></div></div> Fri, 14 Mar 2014 17:50:17 +0000 wabby comment 193164 at http://dagblog.com Turning (for the first http://dagblog.com/comment/193162#comment-193162 <a id="comment-193162"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/link/report-us-could-be-plunged-blackout-minimal-attacks-18352">Report: U.S. Could Be Plunged Into Blackout By Minimal Attacks</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Turning (for the first time...) to the actual content, this <strong>does </strong>seem to be one of those things (unlike, say, the ease of dumping LSD into the water supply, or the vulnerability of the subways to Sarin) that might not have occurred to the variegated enemies of established order (be they religionists or merely grumpy) without a little help from the media.</p> <p> </p> <p>(Edit to add: <strong>EIGHTEEN MONTHS</strong> OF NO POWER--HOLY SHIT!)</p> <p> </p> <p>One might accept this perhaps enhanced risk if there were even the slightest possibility that by this disclosure the PTB might be galvanized (pun intended) to remedial efforts, a hope that is manifestly futile, of course.</p> </div></div></div> Fri, 14 Mar 2014 17:28:45 +0000 jollyroger comment 193162 at http://dagblog.com Once you've done your PhD http://dagblog.com/comment/193161#comment-193161 <a id="comment-193161"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/193160#comment-193160">I think I just swooned. . .</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Once you've done your PhD orals, the technique stays with you; (it's like riding a bike).</p> </div></div></div> Fri, 14 Mar 2014 17:21:04 +0000 jollyroger comment 193161 at http://dagblog.com I think I just swooned. . . http://dagblog.com/comment/193160#comment-193160 <a id="comment-193160"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/193157#comment-193157">Happy to help out...the</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>I think I just swooned. . .  <img alt="enlightened" height="20" src="http://dagblog.com/modules/ckeditor/ckeditor/plugins/smiley/images/lightbulb.gif" title="enlightened" width="20" /></p> </div></div></div> Fri, 14 Mar 2014 14:33:08 +0000 Ramona comment 193160 at http://dagblog.com Happy to help out...the http://dagblog.com/comment/193157#comment-193157 <a id="comment-193157"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/193152#comment-193152">&quot;lesfictional&quot;? JR, we need</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Happy to help out...the learned author is incorporating a usage from the  Parisian semiotic school, "Les Fictional(s)", an offshoot of dadaism, where outre (style points for the usage of French words) suggestions are juxtaposed with <em>quotidien scenaria</em> to bring the reader to an uncomfortable epiphany, as it were...the whole thing is further deconstructed by Foucault, in his famous <em>Essai sur les typos </em> but I digress...</p> </div></div></div> Fri, 14 Mar 2014 13:55:33 +0000 jollyroger comment 193157 at http://dagblog.com