dagblog - Comments for "Ohio Student Expelled, Arrested, Spent 13 Days In Jail . . . After A Small Pocketknife Is Found In His Locked Car Trunk By School Officials"

Oh my... My sailor-boy ears

oldenGoldenDecoy — Fri, 21 Mar 2014 19:59:26 +0000

Oh my... My sailor-boy ears are burning . . .

What the f---bleep is f-------bleep going on with all these f----bleep?

YoHo YoHo... A sailor's life for me...

~OGD~

adds fuckin' emphasis...

jollyroger — Tue, 18 Mar 2014 23:59:49 +0000

In reply to Yes, no need to swear.

adds fuckin' emphasis...

I had much the same reaction.

A Guy Called LULU — Tue, 18 Mar 2014 23:51:02 +0000

In reply to This is so insane that I went

I had much the same reaction. The story just seemed too crazy as told. Even here in the land of the free and the home of the brave. Usually I would have looked further myself when the 'reported' facts of the case seemed so far out there but I was in a bit of a hurry and decided to make sort of a psychic bet that Turley would have done that himself before posting the story as he did. Glad that you did look further, though.

Yes, no need to swear.

Peter Schwartz — Tue, 18 Mar 2014 23:45:04 +0000

In reply to What the fuck are you talking

Yes, no need to swear.

O maaan, this is a fuckin'

jollyroger — Tue, 18 Mar 2014 23:24:26 +0000

In reply to I hear you. I want to be

O maaan, this is a fuckin' OUTRAGE!! This is a good kid! How dare they claim to have based their "concerns" on his youtube channel.

I hear you. I want to be

Verified Atheist — Tue, 18 Mar 2014 23:00:05 +0000

In reply to Please don't swear. I

I hear you. I want to be skeptical about this, too, but if this guy was one of those crazies you'd think that someone on the other side of the argument (not just the prosecutor who professionally should be keeping his mouth shut about the case, but others such as the school officials involved in the case) would be pointing this out, and I'm not seeing it anywhere.

Edit to add: Here's another video (posted in February) that I think says something about what kind of kid he is:

hmmm.. well, okay, I did

jollyroger — Tue, 18 Mar 2014 22:34:23 +0000

In reply to Please don't swear. I

hmmm.. well, okay, I did respond without benefit of the Youtube visit...maybe I'll drop by and come back when better informed.

Edit to add: ok, all I saw was a kinda geeky interview with a cop about the new police cars (Wiser identifies himself as from the cable channel), pretty unobjectionable...didn't watch all the stuff, but that's how I saw it.) Lotsa army outtakes. not my cuppa, but I don't see Adam Lanza here...

If the case were dismissed

jollyroger — Tue, 18 Mar 2014 22:26:38 +0000

In reply to there is no hope here of

If the case were dismissed without going to trial, it might form the basis for a wrongful prosecution (which is fundamentally the redress afforded on these facts).

However, if the prosecutor exercises his discretion and a judge refuses to grant the defendant's motion to dismiss, then the decision of a jury to acquit, while a "victory" for the defendant, doesn't impart to him a right to recover for having been charged, imprisoned, and tried. That's why I put scare quotes around the expression, "the system worked".

Ie, when you are wrongfully accused, and after spending $100,000+ on bail premiums, lawyers, etc, plus spent maybe (as here,) 13 days in custody, you are expected to be grateful that you were acquitted, but that's all you get (this lousy t-shirt that says "I'm not in prison")

there is no hope here of

EmmaZahn — Tue, 18 Mar 2014 22:22:18 +0000

In reply to What the fuck are you talking

there is no hope here of civil redress, if the case goes to trial and a defense verdict ensues, "the system worked."

Why? Locals sue the school board here all the time for much smaller overreaches.

Please don't swear. I

EmmaZahn — Tue, 18 Mar 2014 22:17:12 +0000

In reply to What the fuck are you talking

Please don't swear.

I visited his youtube channel. His areas of interest are army, police, fire, emt which are good professions to pursue but maybe because I have a friend who spent a fair portion of her career weeding out crazies who as avidly wanted to be in the police force, I sincerely hope he is not one of them.