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The following may be of

oldenGoldenDecoy — Sun, 23 Mar 2014 16:16:20 +0000

The following may be of interest . . .

Add this info to the mix. I caught this last week and saved the link.

News Release: Freescale Electronics

Malaysian plane: 20 passengers worked for
Electronic Warfare and Military Radar firm

All options are on the table.

~OGD~

McCain would have wrassled

jollyroger — Sun, 23 Mar 2014 02:36:35 +0000

In reply to Yes, of course, and it would

McCain would have wrassled those batteries outta the plane and....

Yes, of course, and it would

Anonymous ncd — Sun, 23 Mar 2014 00:20:11 +0000

In reply to They're too busy hunting for

Yes, of course, and it would never happen if John McCain was in charge.

They're too busy hunting for

jollyroger — Sat, 22 Mar 2014 23:37:17 +0000

In reply to Penalties and regulations

They're too busy hunting for a) the supernatural intervention b) the mooslims

Penalties and regulations

NCD — Sat, 22 Mar 2014 22:14:52 +0000

In reply to The linked regulations were

Penalties and regulations slow down the magic of the marketplace. And kill....jobs.

Maybe someone can explain to me how our great media has let this CEO get by with the 'just small lithium batteries' BS.

The linked regulations were

jollyroger — Sat, 22 Mar 2014 20:45:20 +0000

In reply to CNN reports the airline CEO

The linked regulations were notable for fairly sketchy penalty information. \

That said, I can understand why a shipper might cut corners (they're not on the plane, after all) but how does the owner of a several hundred million dollar plane find it advantageous to be stupid about something that has already brought down more than one?

CNN reports the airline CEO

NCD — Sat, 22 Mar 2014 20:37:52 +0000

In reply to MH370 Fire-Cargo Lithium Batteries

CNN reports the airline CEO said:

But Malaysia Airlines CEO Ahmad Jauhari Yahya told reporters the batteries were routine cargo.

"They are not declared dangerous goods," he said, adding that they were "some small batteries, not big batteries."

'Small' lithium batteries are in fact very dangerous, they are 'lithium metal' as opposed to 'lithium ion' rechargeable.

Contrary to the airline CEO, the 'small' batteries are dangerous and regulated for air transport, IATA pdf.

From US regulations link above:

LITHIUM METAL BATTERIES -
FORBIDDEN FOR TRANSPORT
ABOARD PASSENGER AIRCRAFT

As an aside, mangoes are not

Verified Atheist — Sat, 22 Mar 2014 18:13:13 +0000

In reply to Yes... 'just mangoes' don't

As an aside, mangoes are not the same thing as mangosteens. (I'd never heard of the latter until you posted this.)

Recall this report from a Mr.

NCD — Sat, 22 Mar 2014 18:06:12 +0000

In reply to MH370 Fire-Cargo Lithium Batteries

Recall this report from a Mr. McKay working on an oil rig that night:

..New Zealander Mike McKay, who is working on a rig operating in the Gulf of Thailand, was so certain he saw the ill-fated flight on fire that he emailed his employers, urging them to pass the information onto authorities...

On theory is after killing all aboard with smoke, the pallet load of lithium batteries burned thorough the cargo straps, slid to the rear of the aircraft causing overweight aft and a climb in altitude, then crashed or burned through the plane wall/floor to drop into the sea, allowing the aircraft to fly on for 5 hours.

Odd, or typical, of major media that I have heard nothing on the lithium battery load in the cargo, and regulations on putting them on passenger planes, which is apparently illegal, although the regulations are complex, non rechargeable 'primary' lithium batteries seem to be the most dangerous for air transport.

Yes... 'just mangoes' don't

NCD — Sat, 22 Mar 2014 17:02:48 +0000

In reply to I suppose it would merely be

Yes... 'just mangoes' don't worry. I just found this, lithium battery regulation for checked bags, issued in 2007:

Starting Jan. 1, airline passengers will no longer be allowed to pack loose lithium batteries in checked luggage, the U.S. Transportation Department's Pipeline and Hazardous Materials Safety Administration warned late last week.

Instead, passengers will be required to take loose batteries with them in carry-on baggage, packed in plastic bags. The new regulation, which will go into effect in order to lessen the risk of lithium battery fires