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Well, yeah, if you want to

Aaron Carine — Sat, 19 Apr 2014 23:08:47 +0000

In reply to What I learned as a liberal talking head on Fox News

Well, yeah, if you want to persuade people, you won't do it by railing at them. But a lot of people won't listen to reason.

Wattree properly

rmrd0000 — Sat, 19 Apr 2014 20:53:21 +0000

In reply to Wattree seems to have missed

Wattree properly characterized the ridiculousness of Kohn's statement. The GOP greeted Obama's election with a vow to make him a one term President. What Kohn leaves out is any requirement on the part of Conservatives/Libertarians/Tea Party members to be civil.

What changes in rhetoric should be required by those on the Right?

Wattree seems to have missed

Lurker — Sat, 19 Apr 2014 17:28:57 +0000

In reply to What I learned as a liberal talking head on Fox News

Wattree seems to have missed this thread, since he quotes the same article in his "Sally Kohn Sings Kumbaya to Fox News". He seems to have missed her point, too, which is that hating your opponents and treating them like monsters is unlikely to win them to your cause.

Wow! The (inevitable)

Lurker — Sat, 19 Apr 2014 17:24:56 +0000

In reply to Stockholm syndrome ;) More

Wow! The (inevitable) comparison to Hitler on the first reply! Is this a record?

Sally Kohn's flattering

NCD — Sat, 19 Apr 2014 16:59:19 +0000

In reply to What I learned as a liberal talking head on Fox News

Sally Kohn's flattering testimonial on the nice and smart people at Fox News and her favorite, and 'mentor', Sean Hannity, hasn't gotten through there. Yet.

I won't hold my breath.

Specifically....Kohn's advice to avoid 'harboring stereotypes' and to 'not vilify the other side', Sean's books:

Sean Hannity Deliver Us from Evil: Defeating Terrorism, Despotism, and Liberalism

Sean Hannity Conservative Victory: Defeating Obama's Radical Agenda

Sean Hannity Let Freedom Ring: Winning the War of Liberty over Liberalism

I'm afraid that even when

Aaron Carine — Fri, 18 Apr 2014 21:46:33 +0000

In reply to What I learned as a liberal talking head on Fox News

I'm afraid that even when conservatives are nice on a personal level, I have trouble tolerating their inhumanity.

I agree. In my experience

rmrd0000 — Thu, 17 Apr 2014 18:46:59 +0000

In reply to I agree completely. There are

I agree. In my experience many Conservatives views barbs against a well-known Liberal as a joke that you are automatically supposed to take in stride.

I agree completely. There are

Verified Atheist — Thu, 17 Apr 2014 18:18:10 +0000

In reply to The article assumes that

I agree completely. There are liberals who always assume the worst of conservatives just as there are conservatives who always assume the worst of liberals. In fact, I'd dare say that it is far more common for conservatives to think of "liberal" as a dirty word than vice-versa.

The article assumes that

rmrd0000 — Thu, 17 Apr 2014 16:13:04 +0000

In reply to Playing devil's advocate a

The article assumes that Liberals are screaming in the face of Conservatives. This is ridiculous. Discussions between individuals tend to be civil. Many Conservatives cite Fox as a source of information and it is hard to convince them that the facts do not support the conclusion drawn by a panel on Fox, the conversation can be civil but unproductive. When confronted with facts that run counter to belief, the tendency is for the person rejecting facts to double down on their belief.

The idea that Conservatives are not "nice" is as bad as O'Rielley being surprised that Blacks don't yell MF in restaurants. The argument places the "pathologic" behavior in the laps of Liberals and does not appear to require anything in return from Conservatives.

Playing devil's advocate a

Verified Atheist — Thu, 17 Apr 2014 15:54:14 +0000

In reply to If you want everyone to be

Playing devil's advocate a bit here, but sure, it's fair to say that, as long as you are ignorant about what your policies will achieve, which I think is a fair assumption in many cases. Hanlon's razor: never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity.

As an example, I might support helping people to heal and then institute a policy of replacing doctors with praying priests on the belief that the latter is more helpful than the former. (Well, not me, but a hypothetical me.)