dagblog - Comments for "Huffpost celebrates judge releasing Carter" http://dagblog.com/link/huffpost-celebrates-judge-releasing-carter-18498 Comments for "Huffpost celebrates judge releasing Carter" en What's it to you if I write http://dagblog.com/comment/194904#comment-194904 <a id="comment-194904"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/194903#comment-194903">Peracles, talking about</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>What's it to you if I write what I fucking want? Why are you even here if you don't care? Don't you have a life except to follow PP around bitching?</p> <p>He beat the shit out of a 60-year-old woman while "moving on with his life". Most of the story about him is full of bullshit - he never passed a lie detector test, he wasn't a civil rights spokesman, he wasn't exonerated for the killings, he wasn't misidentified, and the witnesses didn't change their story except Bello who was documented as being offered a bribe for it. And the woman Carter was convicted 2x of killing had about 7 organs pierced and took a month to die. But he gets a top 10 single &amp; a blockbuster movie turning him into victim and martyr.</p> <p>Whether his later life did something real for the wrongfully convicted or just built up his aura, he stands as an imposter, some symbol of racism when he's really a symbol of how living a violent amoral life just brings you more trouble, even in the unlikely case that he really was innocent.</p> <p>Here's how the star witness' tainted "recantation" happened, even though the jury ignored it and convicted Carter a 2nd time:</p> <p> </p> <blockquote> <p style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><b><font size="+1">Recantation:</font></b> In September 1974, seven years after the first trial, the defense obtained an affidavit from Mr. Bello in which he stated that his identification of the defendants Carter and Artis was a mistake, that he had identified the wrong persons, and that he had been pressured and confused into his trial testimony by the prosecution and the police (22aA 4866-74). This recantation was solicited from Bello by public defender investigator Fred Hogan and journalists Selwyn Raab and Hal Levinson. The defense moved for a new trial and surprisingly did not produce any of these three people as witnesses at the recantation hearing. The presiding judge determined that the recantation was untrue. State v. Carter, 136 N.J. Super. 271 (Cty. Ct. 1974). The district court does not mention this ruling.</p> <p style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">The State learned from Alfred Bello the circumstances behind the recantation after Professor Leonard Harrelsons polygraph examination of Bello in August 1976. In the period of less than two months prior to retrial, the State receovered considerable evidence, long known to the defense, to confirm Alfred Bellos explanation of how the recantation came about. Alfred Bello explained how he was visited in jail by Hogan, Raab and Levinson who were soliciting his recantation. Bello said that Hogan offered him money if he would recant. Hogan told him he had a "piece" of Rubin Carters book and that Bello could get a "piece" if he recanted (22aA 4834-41).</p> <p style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">The prosecution produced evidence to confirm the fact that public official Hogan had a financial interest in Rubin Carter. Philip Salinardi, the treasurer of The Viking Press, produced a contract between his company and the defendant Rubin Carter for the publication of the defendants book The Sixteenth Round. The contract contained the incredible revelation that Fred Hogan was designed therein as the agent for the defendant Rubin Carter. Mr. Salinardi further testified that $10,000 of advance money was given to (public official) Hogan in his capacity as the defendant Carters agent (25aA 5565-68). The most startling relevation came when Mr. Hogan admitted that he listed the $10,000 as income on his (Hogans) tax return (37aA 8490-95). This man paid taxes on Rubin Carters money.</p> <p style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">Fred Hogan was not a private investigator. He was a public official. This $10,000 belonged to a client of the Public Defender. Mr. Hogan could produce no documentation to account for how he disbursed the funds. If he was acting on behalf of the defendant Carter with regard to the receipt of this money, he served in a fiduciary capacity and certainly should have records to account for his disbursements.</p> <p style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">On the witness stand Fred Hogan became trapped by his own efforts to withhold evidence and conceal the truth. At the 1976 trial, Fred Hogan was called as a defense witness on December 9, 1976. On the witness stand, he produced typewritten reports of his meetings with Alfred Bello at the Passaic County Jail in 1973 and 1974. Mr. Hogan testified that he prepared the typewritten reports the evening before, i.e., December 8, 1976. Originally, he said the typewritten reports were prepared from handwritten notes which was discarded (37aA 8507-13). However, when pressed by the trial court, Mr. Hogan admitted that although he had said the original notes had been discarded, they might still be available. He assured the trial court that the typed reports had been coped "verbatim" from the original notes (37aA 8540-41). The typewritten notes of Mr. Hogan were marked D-332 (37aA 8528). They were not returned to Mr. Hogan when he left court on December 9, 1976. They were retained by the prosecution with the approval of the court.</p> <p style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">Two days later, public official Fred Hogan returned to the witness stand for further cross-examination. He had retrieved his original notes (39aA 8870-73). Mr. Hogan is exposed. His original notes state that Alfred Bello would testify for the highest bidder and that $20,000 was mentioned. This information was withheld from his typewritten notes and would never had come out before the jury if the trial court had not expressed outrage and directed Mr. Hogan to produce his original notes....</p> <p style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">.... on&amp; on, more at  <a href="http://www.graphicwitness.com/carter/recantation.html">http://www.graphicwitness.com/carter/recantation.html</a></p> </blockquote> </div></div></div> Fri, 25 Apr 2014 09:13:52 +0000 PeraclesPlease comment 194904 at http://dagblog.com Peracles, talking about http://dagblog.com/comment/194903#comment-194903 <a id="comment-194903"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/194902#comment-194902">Apparently Huffpost didn&#039;t</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Peracles, talking about clueless bloggers, Hurricane Carter is dead, what's it to you?</p> <p>After his two decades in jail he started an organization to help the wrongly convicted, he moved on with his life maybe you should too, if you have one.</p> </div></div></div> Fri, 25 Apr 2014 07:10:46 +0000 NCD comment 194903 at http://dagblog.com Apparently Huffpost didn't http://dagblog.com/comment/194902#comment-194902 <a id="comment-194902"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/194889#comment-194889">I thought that the story had</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Apparently Huffpost didn't get the word - they give space to the judge who released him, and now some years later all the clueless bloggers are patting the judge on the back for doing the right thing.</p> <p>He's sure Carter didn't do it - 24 jurors who spent months on this have the opposite opinion. There certainly is racism in our court system, but this one shouldn't have been the poster child.</p> </div></div></div> Fri, 25 Apr 2014 04:28:55 +0000 PeraclesPlease comment 194902 at http://dagblog.com Different slant but good. In http://dagblog.com/comment/194901#comment-194901 <a id="comment-194901"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/194885#comment-194885">Here is basically the same</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Different slant but good. In what I presented, it's more how 2 witnesses identified the white car with unique rear taillights &amp; distinctive-colored out-of-state-plates with 2 black men in the car - within minutes of the shooting - and then Carter &amp; other guy are pulled over in same neighborhood within minutes, with witnesses sure it's the same car.</p> <p>This didn't change over 2 trials, &amp; thus the conviction. Carter being an unimaginable asshole doesn't make him guilty, the found shotgun shell &amp; other round could have been planted, but the basic identification took place, and while the witnesses stayed solid, Carter came up with 4 or 5 alibis over the years as to where he supposedly was.</p> </div></div></div> Fri, 25 Apr 2014 04:25:53 +0000 PeraclesPlease comment 194901 at http://dagblog.com I thought that the story had http://dagblog.com/comment/194889#comment-194889 <a id="comment-194889"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/link/huffpost-celebrates-judge-releasing-carter-18498">Huffpost celebrates judge releasing Carter</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>I thought that the story had been resolved after the release of the movie <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hurricane_(1999_film)">" Hurricane"</a> in 1999. Critics pointed out the reality of the case against Carter.</p> </div></div></div> Thu, 24 Apr 2014 20:22:32 +0000 rmrd0000 comment 194889 at http://dagblog.com Here is basically the same http://dagblog.com/comment/194885#comment-194885 <a id="comment-194885"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/link/huffpost-celebrates-judge-releasing-carter-18498">Huffpost celebrates judge releasing Carter</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Here is basically the same story at <a href="http://www.theguardian.com/film/2014/apr/24/the-hurricane-rubin-carter-denzel-washington">The Guardian fact-checking the 1999 movie</a>. It ends with:</p> <p>"<span style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; line-height: 18.98714256286621px;"><strong>The Hurricane</strong> goes 15 rounds with history and beats it to a pulp.</span>"</p> <p> </p> </div></div></div> Thu, 24 Apr 2014 19:40:01 +0000 EmmaZahn comment 194885 at http://dagblog.com