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Yes. It would probably be

wabby — Mon, 05 May 2014 19:50:43 +0000

In reply to Doesn't it depend on the

Yes. It would probably be Utes or Shoshone in Nevada.

Doesn't it depend on the

Michael Maiello — Mon, 05 May 2014 14:48:21 +0000

In reply to That was a throwaway line,

Doesn't it depend on the tribe?

That was a throwaway line,

wabby — Mon, 05 May 2014 12:59:19 +0000

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That was a throwaway line, but if you want to take it seriously, then yeah, there'd be problems.

The first of which would be having to change an entire culture's mindset because as Indians see it (or used to see it), if you cannot carry it with you, you cannot own it. It is impossible to carry the land around with you in a possibles bag therefore nobody owns the land. So Indians can't kick anyone back to anywhere because Indians don't have the cultural author-i-tay.
So, there's that for starters.

The ranch is in a family

trkingmomoe — Mon, 05 May 2014 09:35:46 +0000

In reply to I do find it heartening that

The ranch is in a family trust set up by Bundy's father, so the liens are against the trust. Bundy must be in charge of the trust for this to go on.

Right? If the standard is

Michael Maiello — Mon, 05 May 2014 01:22:27 +0000

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Right? If the standard is "this law didn't exist when my family started doing something," then we have a huge problem. For one thing, all current Americans have issues and for another... all current Americans with such issues have just been kicked back to Europe by Native Americans.

I am cool with moving to Europe.

Now you're talking crazy.

Verified Atheist — Sun, 04 May 2014 16:57:38 +0000

In reply to Maybe they should give the

Now you're talking crazy. Actually, it seems like a good idea, but I'd be afraid of what would happen to the Indians when they tried to claim it.

I think the federal

Verified Atheist — Sun, 04 May 2014 16:56:27 +0000

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I think the federal government can go a step further (if they haven't already, I haven't really been paying attention) and levy fines on all of the militia known to be supporting Bundy. I'm pretty sure it's against the law to threaten the life of an officer of the United States.

Maybe they should give the

wabby — Sun, 04 May 2014 16:24:47 +0000

In reply to Derange Wars: The Cliven Bundy Story

Maybe they should give the Federal land in dispute back to the Indians.

The government can seize

wabby — Sun, 04 May 2014 16:21:01 +0000

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The government can seize assets from his estate when it goes to probate.

There ya go. I agree with Not Destor Anymore. The gumint's got all the time in the world. Bundy not so much.

And the militias fighting with each other and calling each other names is hilarious. I mean, if you're gonna play at being a soldier, shoot, dammit!

I do find it heartening that

Michael Maiello — Sun, 04 May 2014 15:52:57 +0000

In reply to Derange Wars: The Cliven Bundy Story

I do find it heartening that the Feds weighed the principles at stake here and decided that the cattle and the money isn't worth violence. Somewhere in all of this is a very smart decision maker who will likely never receive due praise for the lives he or she chose to save. They'll get Bundy sooner or later. If it were up to me, they'd just get a lien on his property and wait. Let the fees and interest pile up and remind him he can't live forever. The government can seize assets from his estate when it goes to probate.