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All publicity is good

Peter Schwartz — Sun, 11 May 2014 12:51:44 +0000

In reply to Monica, Bill and the Vast Right Wing Conspiracy

All publicity is good publicity?

There are many ways to become

Ramona — Sat, 10 May 2014 19:58:28 +0000

In reply to What? Becoming spokesmodel

There are many ways to become the spokesmodel, as you say, for groups working with victims of shaming. Writing and posing for Vanity Fair seems an odd choice if that's what she's going for. It may lead to something, but in the meantime she's opening herself up to more ridicule, more shame, more hate. Nobody I know wants that to happen to her again.

I think if she had gone to those groups quietly and shared her story, talking about how she dealt with it, she would have been doing a great service to victims of shame. Few people have ever gone through what she went through and come out the other side whole. I'm not sure she has, either, which is why I question her reasons for opening this can of worms again in such a public venue.

I read this morning that in February Paul Ryan brought up the affair at at least three appearances, so it could be that she knew it was only a matter of time before it was out there again. I don't know what the truth is.

Painful stories are everywhere, but in this case I meant Monica's.

Redeem herself for what? Poor

EmmaZahn — Sat, 10 May 2014 13:00:30 +0000

In reply to Agreed, partially. The first

Redeem herself for what? Poor judgment? Like say letting Vanity Fair pose her lying on a red couch in a white dress? They knew what they were doing but did Lewinsky? I have doubts that she did.

What? Becoming spokesmodel

EmmaZahn — Sat, 10 May 2014 12:40:27 +0000

In reply to Yes, she said that, but Tyler

What? Becoming spokesmodel for a cause is not doing something? That will really surprise a lot of celebrities.

Which painful story? Hers or Clementi's?

Not really. Sure he was

EmmaZahn — Sat, 10 May 2014 12:38:10 +0000

In reply to Drudge kind of was social

Not really. Sure he was inflaming political partisans online but not all that many people were actually online in the 90s -- including partisans. Talk radio and late night hosts were much more influential in popular culture. In today's language, the number of retweets by their followers then would easily beat both Ellen's and Obama's selfies combined. Imo, how they drove the story and kept it alive way past its newsworthyness was the national embarrassment.

If I have to say it a hundred

Richard Day — Sat, 10 May 2014 02:21:04 +0000

In reply to Monica, Bill and the Vast Right Wing Conspiracy

If I have to say it a hundred different times:

I DID NOT HAVE SEX WITH THAT BRIDGE or....

That woman or those women or....

I always wanted to ask Mornin Joke:

How many women have you had sex with since high school?

Would you not like to see his reaction on Mornin Joke?

I think it would be funny.

Oh and Joe, whatever happened to that clerk of yours, I mean just before you retired?

The hypocrisy is incredible. I mean we know Newt had to 'retire'. hahahahahah

Clinton was a prick. I mean he left his 'essence' all over Arkansas. hahahahah

But, he voted 80% along my political views! hahahah

Look, Savage and Hannity and Rush and Beckerhead and a number of folks are given monies to shock and awe us!

What the hell is a girl to do?

hahahahah

This whole thing just makes me laugh.

I hope she makes a lot of money and as I have written afore

Her proof of the Chief Executive's gism is available at the Smithsonian.

hahahahah

And other concubines have made millions on their books chronicling the mayhem caused by this male beast.

If Americans wish to vote for purity, vote for El Papa!

You sure the hell aint gonna find purity in the repub party.

Should we really scorn the Wife?

My God, this entire comment sounds so, so rotten?

Well, as I told my daughter a long long time ago...

All Men Are Pigs!

I think you've just explained

Ramona — Sat, 10 May 2014 01:09:10 +0000

In reply to I'm with you. This is very

I think you've just explained to me the thing that has been puzzling me. She has not grown at all. I'm even sadder now.

I'm with you. This is very

Doctor Cleveland — Sat, 10 May 2014 00:54:53 +0000

In reply to I think the 40 year old is

I'm with you. This is very sad.

I find myself thinking about Lewinsky in exactly the same terms that I thought about her in 1998: "that poor, dumb kid." It's not respectful to think of a 40-year-old in those terms; she's not who she was when she was 24.

But this article sets out to prove that she is exactly who she was 16 years ago: just as hapless and out of her depth. That poor, dumb kid.

Drudge was the first to

Ramona — Sat, 10 May 2014 00:16:15 +0000

In reply to Drudge kind of was social

Drudge was the first to publish her name. Others, like Isikoff, knew it but kept it quiet.

Yes, she said that, but Tyler

Ramona — Sat, 10 May 2014 00:14:20 +0000

In reply to She says in the story why she

Yes, she said that, but Tyler Clementi's suicide took place in 2010. She says it brought her to the realization that she could help others who had been shamed. She could have done that, but so far she hasn't.

Maybe she still will, but I don't see how it helps her cause to rehash that painful old story in Vanity Fair.