dagblog - Comments for "Donald Sterling, the NBA, and the Free Rider Problem" http://dagblog.com/business/donald-sterling-nba-and-free-rider-problem-18539 Comments for "Donald Sterling, the NBA, and the Free Rider Problem" en I think that Sterling may http://dagblog.com/comment/195368#comment-195368 <a id="comment-195368"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/195359#comment-195359">That last sentence might have</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>I think that Sterling may have signs of dementia (or he could be just a cranky old rich guy). He definitely didn't appear to have full control of himself in the Anderson Cooper interview. Cooper did not push Sterling on the housing discrimination issue. It may be that  Cooper thought Sterling was already discredited and didn't feel the need to embarrass Sterling any further.</p> </div></div></div> Tue, 13 May 2014 16:21:12 +0000 rmrd0000 comment 195368 at http://dagblog.com That last sentence might have http://dagblog.com/comment/195359#comment-195359 <a id="comment-195359"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/195357#comment-195357">Donald Sterling appeared on</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>That last sentence might have been snark, but it actually might help. I remember feeling a little guilty about the things I said about Reagan after finding out he was developing Alzheimer's…</p> </div></div></div> Tue, 13 May 2014 13:16:59 +0000 Verified Atheist comment 195359 at http://dagblog.com Donald Sterling appeared on http://dagblog.com/comment/195357#comment-195357 <a id="comment-195357"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/business/donald-sterling-nba-and-free-rider-problem-18539">Donald Sterling, the NBA, and the Free Rider Problem</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p><a href="http://edition.cnn.com/2014/05/11/us/donald-sterling-interview/">Donald Sterling</a> appeared on "Anderson 360" to offer an apology. Instead of an apology, he slammed Magic Johnson and said that Black people do nothing to help Blacks in need. In truth, the Magic Johnson Foundation has focused on education about HIV/AIDS and as a businessman, Johnson brought businesses into under served communities.</p> <p>Sterling needs an adviser with enough clout to tell him to keep his mouth shut. The best thing Sterling can do at this point is undergo testing for dementia.</p> </div></div></div> Tue, 13 May 2014 12:28:17 +0000 rmrd0000 comment 195357 at http://dagblog.com From some things I have been http://dagblog.com/comment/195346#comment-195346 <a id="comment-195346"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/business/donald-sterling-nba-and-free-rider-problem-18539">Donald Sterling, the NBA, and the Free Rider Problem</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>From some things I have been reading the NBA owners may well be more incentivized to just stall and wait for the furor to blow over even if their brand is a little tarnished.</p> <p>If a consortium interested in acquiring the Clippers set Tokowitz up then leaked the story to force a sale, other NBA owners have to wonder whether or not the same thing might happen to them. It would not have to involve racism, any knee jerk politically correct issue could work too.</p> <p>What consortium? The one Forbes thinks most likely to end up the buyers in a forced sale: Magic Johnson and Guggenheim Partners with the encouragement and support of Time Warner Cable.</p> <p> </p> </div></div></div> Mon, 12 May 2014 18:28:45 +0000 EmmaZahn comment 195346 at http://dagblog.com I'm also not so sure that http://dagblog.com/comment/195345#comment-195345 <a id="comment-195345"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/195343#comment-195343">Yes. And I would be very</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>I'm also not so sure that your behavior has to be "public" to get you kicked out of a group business.  I mean, you can be excluded from owning a franchise, or from owning shares of a co-op, just because people find you unpleasant and they might make that judgment based entirely on circumstances that might be considered private.</p> </div></div></div> Mon, 12 May 2014 17:25:27 +0000 Michael Maiello comment 195345 at http://dagblog.com Yes. And I would be very http://dagblog.com/comment/195343#comment-195343 <a id="comment-195343"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/195341#comment-195341">If you buy a Burger King or a</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Yes. And I would be very happy to see Stiviano punished, in civil and maybe even criminal court ( if the release turns out to be part of extortion or blackmail).</p> <p>But although these comments should not have been made public, the other 29 owners have to deal with the fact that they are public. It's their businesses that stand to be hurt.  The players are still in rebellion. Sterling is still radioactive.  </p> <p>And, as Elusive Trope points out, we're talking about an entertainment business. Publicity and public perception is the whole ball game.</p> <p>If you're an actor, a director, an athlete, and some screwed-up things you said in private get out to the public, your career takes a hit. And other people become shy of associating with you. </p> <p>And while I don't condone Stiviano or TMZ, you can't say Sterling was discreet here.  Stiviano is not someone to confide in. (Both because she's clearly some form of paid girlfriend, and because she's clearly an indiscreet publicity-monger.) Confiding your poisonous racist beliefs in your publicity-hound sugar baby and then deliberately antagonizing her by using her for millions of dollars .... It's just crazy.</p> </div></div></div> Mon, 12 May 2014 16:01:37 +0000 Doctor Cleveland comment 195343 at http://dagblog.com I think you have to add into http://dagblog.com/comment/195342#comment-195342 <a id="comment-195342"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/195341#comment-195341">If you buy a Burger King or a</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>I think you have to add into the equation the comments he allegedly made about renting to blacks and Hispanics.  So the invasion of privacy issue has been largely ignored I think because it became further evidence of his racism rather than a single act of racism.</p> <p>Moreover, with the way we as a society invade the lives of celebrities, and the general acceptance that once you enter show business, which sports like the NBA are, you sign a kind of contract with society that says "you lose your privacy rights that the average Joe enjoys."  In other words, if you want to not have your private calls taped and broadcasted over the airwaves and youtube, then don't go buying a NBA team, because your private calls are no longer private.</p> </div></div></div> Mon, 12 May 2014 14:00:44 +0000 Elusive Trope comment 195342 at http://dagblog.com If you buy a Burger King or a http://dagblog.com/comment/195341#comment-195341 <a id="comment-195341"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/195311#comment-195311">I agree that old white</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p> </p> <p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 5px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 5px; padding-left: 0px; "><em>If you buy a Burger King or a Pizza Hut, there are circumstances under which Burger King or Pizza Hut can force you to sell. If you decide to say politically toxic things that endanger the reputation of your business ("Wednesday is Jihadi Night! Get a free topping if you say 'Death to Israel!'") then you'd better believe that they will find a way to make you sell.</em></p> <div>  </div> <p>The difference here being that Sterling ddidn't do anything like that. He made comments on his personal phone. </p> </div></div></div> Mon, 12 May 2014 12:43:17 +0000 CVille Dem comment 195341 at http://dagblog.com Right. In some ways, the http://dagblog.com/comment/195323#comment-195323 <a id="comment-195323"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/195318#comment-195318">One thing about the Clippers</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Right. In some ways, the amount of attention the scandal has brought, and the team's presence in LA, may have attracted a number of high-profile bidders and artificially driven up the price. One valuation I've seen prices the team at $575 million.</p> <p>But Sterling bought the Clippers for $12 million, which, adjusted for inflation, is $33.something million. So even if the team sells for "only" $660-$680 million, which is a little inflated but much less than a billion, Sterling's asset will have increased its value twentyfold. And all that growth derives from the growth of the rest of the league between 1981 and today.</p> </div></div></div> Sat, 10 May 2014 00:45:09 +0000 Doctor Cleveland comment 195323 at http://dagblog.com One thing about the Clippers http://dagblog.com/comment/195318#comment-195318 <a id="comment-195318"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/195311#comment-195311">I agree that old white</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>One thing about the Clippers situation is I keep seeing a $1 billion tag on this sale, for a team that a former colleague at Forbes who I trust values at half that.  Those numbers are fuzzy, of course, but the point is that even in a "forced" sale, he is going to get a good deal.</p> <p>Generally you never wanted to be a "forced seller."  It means you don't get the price you want, you get the offer.  If you sell stock on margin, or sell your home to avoid bankruptcy or get kicked out of the Pizza Hut franchise system, the buyer usually gets a bargain.</p> <p>Sterling seems to be avoiding that.</p> </div></div></div> Fri, 09 May 2014 23:23:54 +0000 Michael Maiello comment 195318 at http://dagblog.com