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My comment wasn't directed at

ocean-kat — Fri, 27 Jun 2014 19:24:54 +0000

My comment wasn't directed at you. That's why I posted it separately. Bruce made a team comment that kinda annoyed me. Then you made another. Then PP jumped on it as well. This "team" thing seemed to be going around so much I got annoyed enough to address it.

I'm not interested in who

Michael Wolraich — Fri, 27 Jun 2014 18:44:01 +0000

In reply to I was not asking for an

I'm not interested in who started it. There was plenty of vitriol to go around, and it seemed likely to escalate without intervention.

I appreciate your apology, and I welcome the news link itself. I urge you not to stop posting about topics that are important to you but to avoid taking the bait when someone tries to provoke you.

I've got 8 million things to do today, so this will be my last comment here. I hope that we can soon migrate to the new server on a more positive note, and I'm grateful for all the help and support that you and others have contributed to the upgrade project.

I was not asking for an

Bruce Levine — Fri, 27 Jun 2014 15:17:03 +0000

In reply to I apologize for the

I was not asking for an apology but in any event I don't believe you meant to be alienating. I understand your position and I also understand why my news piece created a thread that is less pristine than debating whether Republicans are bad. That is the fault of one person and one person only.

Nobody takes more responsibility for the errors in his ways on here than I do. I am not afraid to admit when I'm wrong and the record speaks for itself. I am sorry I expressed pleasure with some colleagues on here the way I did. That apology is a genuine one without explanatory qualifications.

It was just a snarky

Michael Wolraich — Fri, 27 Jun 2014 13:47:53 +0000

In reply to I hate these accusations that

It was just a snarky reference to Bruce's comment

I apologize for the

Michael Wolraich — Fri, 27 Jun 2014 13:47:28 +0000

In reply to Taking one for the team is an

I apologize for the condescension. It was late, and I was tired and annoyed. But please understand, when I have to adjudicate a dispute in which one adult tells another to lick his hemorrhoids and a third adult calls that one some sophomoric name, which leads a fourth adult to praise the third for taking one for the team, well, it's very difficult not to feel condescending.

People agree on some issues

rmrd0000 — Fri, 27 Jun 2014 12:26:57 +0000

In reply to I hate these accusations that

People agree on some issues and disagree on others, that is the flow of blogs. There are no teams. When well crafted arguments are made to present a different angle on a subject, they are taken in stride. When a crap argument is made, it is rejected. It may seem to someone that there is a pile on carefully crafted by a team. In reality all that is happening is that many people are voicing independent comments rejecting a crap argument.

There are no teams. I've

Bruce Levine — Fri, 27 Jun 2014 07:25:32 +0000

In reply to I hate these accusations that

There are no teams. I've agreed with you and have avoided you at times when you pissed me off. I used "taking one for the team" as expression. Sorry I did now.

Taking one for the team is an

Bruce Levine — Fri, 27 Jun 2014 07:21:23 +0000

In reply to Here's how it went down. I

Taking one for the team is an expression. Teams we have none. Here is another. I and others were trying to understand why you threw TM under the bus. Your response was condescending and disrespectful and misdirected. Even moderators fuck up. Way to twist this into something it wasn't. Yay Bruce's team? Poppycock.

I hate these accusations that

ocean-kat — Fri, 27 Jun 2014 07:08:59 +0000

In reply to A New (and Old) Antisemitism in France

I hate these accusations that people throw around that there's some team here or as Resistance used to say a clique. I don't know and I don't care if there's some team. I don't see it and I'm not part of it.

I read a lot of news. Occasionally I feel like discussing or debating it with people who also read a lot of news. No one here is my friend. No one here is even an acquaintance. That's not meant to be insulting it just seems like common sense. I suuppose some people feel differently but I just can't understand how people who have never met can be friends. I've never met anyone here nor have I emailed anyone. So why in the world would I join some team when all I'm interested in is discussing some of the issues I read about.

Calling someone part of a team or clique seems like an insult to me. As if one is not speaking their truth but spinning, a partisan hack. I choose the issues I'm most passionate about. I speak the truth as clearly as I can see it and I try to make the best argument I can. I don't care if I'm the only one advancing the argument and I don't care if others advance similar arguments with me. If someone agrees with me its a coincidence. If I agree with them its a coincidence. I've always thought that that was what most other people were doing here as well. But if some here want to conflate coincidence into team and clique (shrug) what ever.

I'm not on vacation, but have

PeraclesPlease — Fri, 27 Jun 2014 05:41:06 +0000

In reply to Here's how it went down. I

I'm not on vacation, but have been trying to bow out, gracefully or not. As they said in Brokeback, "I wish I knew how to quit you" - take that for what it's worth.

Thanks for your civility, Michael - know you have better things to do what with the blog move and your real life.

I'm rather tired of this "team" aspect to blogging - I thought discussions were useful if we gained a different perspective or learned new info (or once upon a time, even had humorous threads as entertainment).

But lately it seems even Googling new info is a pejorative for some. Playing devil's advocate to see new angles just makes me a devil. Thanks to Ramona for some attempt to understand these disparate ideas, and Lulu for persistence & some gems of info.

Now I'll let y'all have your blog back (& no, I'm not a real southerner - I just play one on TV the blogosphere).

Namaste.